An article I read today- it is about how music affects empaths but (further down) also on inspiration and why it is so important:
https://drjudithorloff.com/high-empathy-people-may-process-music-in-brains-social-areas/
quotation from the article:
“Let the beauty you love be what you do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground.” (poet Rumi)
I just had the need to do this 
You're all so great and I am so grateful for this forum! 
@michelle if the video is not a fake - it really looks, also the movement, as if this was a humanoid or something similar, with wings, landing on its feet and then pushing off again. and fast! :-D
on what things look like: we live in a 3-dimensional world and our perception is limited to 3 dimensions. so if we get a look on something / somebody existing in more than 3 dimensions, we cannot encompass all aspects of it/him like we are used to. So it may be looking totally different from a different "angle". Like, if you were living in the "Flatland" (like Sheldons Flatland in Big Bang Theory) and knew only 2 Dimensions an then a 3Dimensional beeing sticks its finger at you. you cannot perceive a 3dimensional finger but only the front or, when it turns, the side - and it would be difficult to see that this is even 2 views of the same thing.
a bit srewed up theory, but I think, that is one of the problems of seeing supernatural things or what does not belong in this world. our brain cannot process what it sees, so it has to translate it into something it can digest. so you get a simplification, a metaphor a "flatification" :oD or something like that.
but about the theory of the merkaba beeing the same thing as the wings - why then does it feel like wings and not like 2 counterturning fields? even if we cannot percieve it with ou r eyes, we should be able to feel it, or what do you think? Or, perhaps of 3dimension restriction you can only feel the one or the other at the same time ... (I'm getting carried away...)
Hello @warden
where did the internet research lead you? I found the following pages:
https://www.ask-angels.com/spiritual-guidance/earth-angels/
https://www.learning-mind.com/earth-angel/
https://foreverconscious.com/are-you-an-earth-angel-here-are-21-signs
http://www.angelhandsnaturalhealing.com/angelic-realms.html
@tigerlily The last one says it's based on the Doreen Virtue book -I personally found this a bit too much though, whith the different earth angels and pixies and star people (but I did not read the book itself)
The other sources listed attributes that where mostly identical to the attributes that describe an empath (apart i.e. from the longing to go home - I hat a time in my life where I felt this very strongly - I woke up each morning and was very frustrated to find myself still here .... ^_^ )
I too experience the presence of wings, mostly during meditation or chakra activation, and more and more in "normal mode"
Isn't it possible, that the wings are a normal part of the human energy-field (like the crown chakra) -and have nothing to do with beeing a special sort of beeing? I included them when doing chakra activation - after the crown-chakra I "stretch my wings" :-D ). I also use them as a protection, to appear unconspicous or on the contrary to appear more impressive than I am - when encountering suspicious people when I'm outside - I don't know though if this makes any difference - never asked the suspicious bypassers (^_-)
I also feel like on a mission, but I have absolutely no clue what it is.
@michelle: I bought this picture you posted as a poster years ago :-D
Hello @just-stevie
did you ever try to tell them to just go away?
@all4joy if you kindly accept my request: there is something else on the subject which I prefer to not share on public
Break Trauma Bond: Modelling Technique To Recondition Mr Lizard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqR3nO0s8i4
Releasing Trauma Bond Linguistic Time Bind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArW-yvYHp0
I know, this sounds a bit weird...
Do you have any experience with influence on technology or feeling into machines (like your car)? I have the impression that my car depeloped some kind of a life of its own and that there is come kind of connection to me (example: I open the car and it is moving its rear windscreen once - like, hello, there you are)- It does this for years but not every time. Only lately, I thought of giving it away and buy a new one (I had a bad concience about it). It stopped 'waving' at me alltogether - I think it was sulking. You can put it on electronic malfunction and the rest on coincidence and my imagination. I know that. But it just feels like it has a personality.
Also, I never ever owned a car radio that works - before CD-time, it was always "eating" my cassettes (tapejam) and now, its always the CDs that don't work- event brandnew ones. Lately, I switched cars with my husband, and guess what, he could put all the CDs into the radio the wanted and listen to them without disturbance 
ok, I feel a bit silly about posting this - but perhaps its more than my imagination running wild
is it possible, to have a connection to a machine similar than you could have it to a living beeing? this could be very useful (if you could control it). there are shamans expressly personalizing their technical items to make them work better or make them their accomplice
may I ask you a (perhaps stupid 😅) noob-question: how do you identify the cords that need to be removed? Or discern "bad" cords from healthy ones? what do you do if the root doesn't come out?
I only know this in the way of: going outside, finding a suitable stick or piece of wood, breaking it and throwing it away. does this have the same effect? (although it is only useful if you know which bond you want to cut)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AZvZSqHYCk
Pretty good (if you skip the part with the singing )
@stefficat11 you may want to have a look here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/SPARTANLIFECOACH/featured
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_P8aFACl-VqJl0flQPGMQQ/videos (Vital Mind Psychology)
these are just two of whom I know, there are others out there. If you want to really recover, you need to get help from someone who specialized in treating narcissitic abuse - normal therapy is not sufficient. There is a reason why you fell for that guy initially and you have to have a look at that, as painful as it may be.
I wish you all the best for 2019 and that you'll get better quickly
take care of yourself
chris
you're probably right. as I said, I don't trust myself for the time beeing, I'm currently a bit paranoid.
Imagining them from beeing in your back is actually where on your inner map your internalized parents should be, encouraging you. Your unconcious goes "ah, parental figure" and you feel protected and loved.
I have been thinking about this special subject a lot these last days. I am questioning all my relationships right now, and so I do with my current partner. We've been together for a long time and we are a really good team, but I am beginning to miss depth and passion, a feeling that increased I think over the last months or so, as I am going through a development process right now.
I asked myself what was attracting me to that person and I came to the conclusion, that, perhaps, it was the missing of this intensity of feelings that attracted me initially. It felt safe and calm.
Some years ago, I was totally unable to hug people or kiss them on the cheeks, even close friends, it was totally overwhelming by then. When I touched a person emanating intense emotions, I sometimes lost orientation alltogether for some seconds. Now I can handle this better and I begin to miss something in my partnership.
I discovered that most of my family members have narcissitic traits and I am now panicking on the possibiliy, that my partner is like that too and I just don't want to see it. I'm trying to get more closeness into the relationship and talked openly to my partner about it. He sometimes feels to me like he's switched off, but when I got on my train home this morning (we are currently living apart) he looked as if he was starting to cry any moment. This is all so confusing and I totally don't trust my own judgement. What if "safe and calm" really is the absence of emotions (his or possibly mine)? Panic.
@aiden it looks on your picture as if you where painting are you?
How did you get through this isolation phase? after some time alone it feels as if reality was getting kind of thin
@crystalsage wow, you live in a big city there ... 4 times bigger population than the whole country I live in ... :-D
Yes, I probably ought to take all my courage and try to go to places where it is more likely to find empaths or at least more sensitive people. I'm moving to Germany, I hope it will be simpler there, more people than cows at least :-D
have a nice end of the year
Actually, I'm planning to offer art courses for children after we've moved to our new place.
PS: I just heard this song on youtube. I thought, it fits quite well
I struck a nerve there
thank you for sharing your experiences, I can relate to most of it.
I live in Luxemburg right now and there seems to be no local emapth group - and if there were, I'm not sure if I had the courage to go there ... (erverybody just knows everybody around here). I'm attending an art class though, but it will only go on for some months now.
I made the experience too, that even good friends react strangely if you come up with needing emotional support. A really good friend of mine, who even offered me to call her anytime I feel bad - when I did, she kind of quickly ended the conversation, although she is normally a really gentle person. I don`t understand this. Perhaps I just scared her off. She even apologized the next time we talked. Nervertheless, I now hesitate to call when I don't feel good and stick again to my old rule to have no social interactions when in a dark mood. People don't want to hear it and I don't want to feel rejected. I realize I'm starting to sound a bit bitter, sorry for that.
💗 I really appreciated your kind and elaborate responses.💗
Thank you and have a nice and cosy end of the year.
What do you do against loneliness? In "normal" friendships I have always the feeling that there is something missing, that it is not close enough. In addition, you cannot talk about your true self to most people.
so, how do you do? how do you find the "empath next door"?
I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you and I want to apologize if I sounded self-complacent. I was so into my own experience that I forgot how much worse things can get.
I have watched a lot of Richards youtube videos before buying some of the courses. I found all of them helpful. Do you know Pete Walker? he wrote books on ptsd, "From surviving to thriving" and "The Tao of Fully Feeling".
Hello @michelle
Thank you for sharing the video. There are similairities, but contrary to Tom Montalk, what Sam Vaknin say is, that there has formed something called "the narcissictic shell" inside the human where the true self is hiding (as a surviving response to abuse or trauma) because reallity is too painful. The ego has taken over and is running the show. Healing would be possible if the initial trauma could be resolved, but this is something the most skilled therapists are not (until now) capable to do and the process would be very painful.
Hello everybody
I have this really strange question: is it possible, that in one body two souls incarnated - like one frontend and one backend? What I don't mean is: siamese twins, walk-in souls or psychosis with different personalities. Just two souls in one body, possibly even of different sex, one active and one passive, but they can exchange place and do communicate. Perhaps an accidental incident, or for the purpose of healing or even hiding? Anybody experienced or heard of something like this?
I'd be grateful for any chared experience.
hello So_exausted_from_users
There is a thing called "cold empathy" which narcs /psychopaths/cluster-bs can display. Sam Vaknin coined the expression. it means, that the narc can see what you are feeling but is not feeling with you or give any care about it. the whole thing with cluster-bs is, that they are cut off from their feelings. So, a narc cannot be an empath, but he or she can be really good at knowing or at least guessing what you are feeling - it is part of their survival strategy. But they don't care about what you are feeling. Sam Vaknin aboud cold empathy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J09lXzhq5DA (note about Sam Vaknin: he is a diagnosed psychopath) citation from the video: "the brain is there - the heart isn't"
If you need help to recover from narcicisstic abuse, I recommend Richard Grannon (spartanlifecoach.com). He is also on youtube. He is really good and has a lot of free material online.
hope I could help
Chris
and I recall Moments where I had the impression of beeing watched while watching or being addressed directly. only, there is no sound, and I have no idea what the message could be
.Me to I see things when I close my eyes, some times more instense than other times, sometimes even with the eyes open. its nlt only faces, but all kind of picures, most of the time moving, like a film.
I sometimes think its a kind of connection to some kind of information stream being out there.
I do go to the doctor - but you can bet, the moment the treatment is helping there's another completely different symptom popping up
There is something strange happening. Everytime I get to cope with a symptom, there's another one propping up - a bit like bubbles in a sticker. I used to have severe headaches. I went to the ostheopath, the headaches have gone. Then I got diagnosed on having asthma. The medication is helping - I start to have prickling extremeties (diagnosis: carpal tunnel syndrome). I'm doing extra stretching and massage to avoid an operation - the symptoms get better and there comes the next problem: I get really bad dorsal pain. Along all this, I have sleeping difficulties, returning diarrrhea and seemengly allergies. I say seemingly because the medecine helps but the tests are without result.
I wonder, if I am really this ill. I was wondering, if this ridiculous buildup of symptoms where alarm signals for something else. I am currently in a job thats not too bad, but I feel, its not the right place for me anymore. I learned a lot, but I got the feeling, I have to move on. Only, I cannot simply quit my job like that for the moment. I'm right now attending courses to be able to make a carreer change and I have to be patient still, but it's getting more and more difficult to go on.
Now, my question, finally ☺:
Could it be, that all those symptoms and illnesses are warning signals that I am not fulfilling my destiny? Or am I symply getting more sensitive?
1) this "I know you look" / "I know you reaction" happens to me sometimes with children or dogs (parents and owners are not amused). Most adult strangers rather avoid me
2) I have a variation of this: I see people I haven't seen for a long time when I'm looking at strangers passing by (i.e. passing in a car). They look like these people but I know they're not them.
3) this looking at somebody to have the person turn her had is always working. People and animals feel if somebody is looking at them. You don't have the effect if you look slightly past the person.
4) this never happend to me. On some occations, I dreamt of situations though, that happed like this afterwards.
Dear Elise: I'm relieved you found a new home for the community. And I like the new look 😊 thank you for the energy and time you put in this. 😘
Ecila, Caren, Visitor.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I do a little yoga myself at home and I always feel better afterwards. I tried doing the Qi Gong exercises alone at home but I stopped this because I always felt a bit "beside myself" afterwards. Sure it would help to get instructions from a Qi Gong teacher whom I could tell I was an empath - but I did not have enough trust in my teacher at that time to share such information about me. Interesting to know though, that yoga can have a similar effect.
I tried something different, in the meantime, that is finding and deleting inferfering "soul contracts" (I'm not sure if this is the right translation). The first time I did this was a real overwhelming experience and there was a whole lot of "me" coming back to me. I didn't think of it until now, but perhaps I should try the Qi Gong exercises once more, to see if it made a change.
best wishes and thanks for sharing
Chris
a friend an colleague at work has recently gone trough a complete change. From good humoured, self-confident to totally insecure and anxious in a few days. She has some private problems an has to fight an illness, but this situation has been going on for some months whereas this change in her behaviour came totally unexpected and within a few days. I have the impression she is getting thinner (not in terms of bodyweigh, although she is loosing weigh too) every day. Like she was slowly disappearing. Before this change, she spoke of her problems quite freely and frequently, now, she only repeats that she is insecure and seems often to be at a loss for words. She sometimes just stands there and looks at me and says nothing. I have no idea how to help. I already asked, if something had happened to her recently, but she denied.
Well, for me, the words evoke the following picture: a tall man in white (or snow-covered) clothing standing still, arms streched out, in a snow storm, face turned skywise, wind blowing in his face. I can almost hear the storm.
I often experienced, that I had a strong (and unwanted) influence on other people / other peoples decisions. I find it a bit frightning. You just tell somebody innocently your point of view or how you would handle a situation and than they just do it like that (!) and you think "oh no, not again!". I got very cautious in expressing my point of view, for fear of getting to big an influence on other peoples lives. I really hate it when that happens.
Hi everybody A Happy New Year!
So, for anyone still interested in my little selfexperiment: I practiced the qi gong exercises for some time regularly but I now decided definetly not to practice them anymore. I found out that on the one hand, it seemed to do me some good. But on the other hand, I got the feeling, that the exercises made me kind of numb and a bit disorientated. I do not want to offend anybody, but I begin to get the impression, that this kind of exercises are not necessarily designed to get us on a higher level (spiritually) but rather to make human beeings (that is the body) function better and longer - because that is what it did to me. Perhaps this is only the case for the exercises I learned and cannot be gereralized.
Chris
Hi Angela,
wow, I always thought it was rather the other way around because with me always having my head in the clouds
I'm rather new with chakras. I just boght a book with exercises for clearing and activating chakras, but it's recommanded in the book to start with the lowest. So, I think I'd rather follow the instructions, since they include clearing exercises, event if that means I'l have to stay a pear for some time :o)
thank you for sharing our thoughts
Hi Kelly,
We did a lot of warm up and self massage exercises to begin with, but nothing like cleaning exercises. It was a relativly mixed group, a lot of people over 50, it's possible I could have picked up bad energy, I' still learning to shield. I hat the impression that the whole thing was overstraining me. I did not talk to the instructer about it, because I'm rather sure he would not have understood it and his standard response anyway was, that we had to practice at home. Only, I could not manage it at that time to practice at home for several reasons.
The daily 10 minutes in the morning or early afternoon I'm doing now (alone and at home) seem to be doing me some good, though.
Where I live there's not a big choice of local courses so I took the first one that was in my vicinity at a time that was possible for me. He hat learnend from chinese masters, so I think he was not to bad as an instructor, but I think he saw it all more from the physical point of view.
I cannot give you any advice or help there, but I've experienced something similar already. it happens, when I'm tired or nearly asleep or simply absent-minded or I want to describe something I have no words for. So I want to say something but the words that I actually say are totally unknown to me, like another language, I know or have a feeling what the overall meaning could be but do not know what the words mean although it's like the meaning is on the tip of my tongue. Could be though, that I'm just babbling because I'm tired.
I started now to practice a 10 minutes sequence every day, that I learned in the course. (Nei Yang Gong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pQjpzxkeKE&feature=youtu.be)
What I found out so far: I should not do it in the evening. I tried this, and it made me totally nervous and gave me an antsy feeling all over my body. When I'm doing it in the morning, it feels good, and I feel better afterwards. So, lets see if there're going to be "long-time" effects
I do not know if the pain was along acupuncture meriadians, I'm not familiar with acupuncture and it's some months ago (yes, I've taken a really long time to come to the conclusion that I could ask here on the community ... oO ) I just remember a sharp pain over the whole body and that I had to take a hot bath in the middle of the night to be able to relax enough to sleep a bit. After this experience, I did not retourn to the course.
Perhaps it was the same effect as had justlooking, and the pain was showing that it actually worked. So, I think I'll try some Qi Gong exercises at home, in small doses, and without other people, to see, if this happes again.
Thanks a lot for the answers
Chris
Has anyone experienced yet negative effects from practising Qi Gong?
I've taken a Qi Gong evening couse last year. In the beginning, I experienced it as positive and I felt more centred but then I had to stop it because instead of getting more energy and feeling better, I was feeling totally exhausted after the courses, my body hurt all ower the way and it kept me from sleeping at night, this state continuing for up to a week (until the next course). Also, there was not a feeling of energy flowing more freely after doing the Qi Gong exercises , it felt more as if I had done any sort of physical exercise, like swimming or running (and way to much of it).
Does anybody have an explanation for this?
Chris
I tried the 3 tests, and I had the impression, test 3 was focusing more on the "classic" empathy, that is, if a person can be compassionate with others and has a good ability to deal with people but does not actually feel what the other person feels.
I wanted to share the link of the empath quiz with a friend, who wondered, if she too could be an empaht, but actually, I cannot find the quiz anymore. Does'nt it exist anymore? If so, could anybody recommend me another quiz?
Thanks for your help
