I've had this discussion many years before on this site but thought I would see if there were any new perspectives in the present.
I've always believed that energy and consciousness are two entirely different things, perhaps even, exact opposites. Energy being the physical and consciousness being the spiritual. However, many people do not share this belief. The best thought that I can achieve in my lonely little mind space is that one cannot exist without the other.
I look at this this way. Consciousness is the chalk and energy is blackboard. If you don't have one, the other is absolutely worthless, but otherwise they are two entirely different things that must overlap to create everything that we know, including all realms of the universe and perhaps beyond.
Thoughts anyone??????????