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Zeca
@zeca
07/24/13 12:54:05PM
116 posts

What's you culture?


Empath

I do relate, I feel very drawn to other cultures, I love travel and want to go so many places, and I've been wanting to go to China since I can remember. I really hope to get there one day. I also love Japanese culture, but what is more is that home doesn't feel like a particular country, but rather, asian men, or asian eyes and black hair, and native americans too, as they are an evolution over the Beiring strait. I've wanted black hair since I was little too, and I am so the opposite, born blue eyed and fair. But I feel I have been in a lot of places, and many people, though I don't have memories of it, just tendencies, preferences and longings.

The thing is though, that I feel the entirety of this world is home, even if I feel an affinity for certain places. And I think for me it is more a time I want to return to than a place. Specifically I would wander free, and would go to those times that there are no guns and few if any fences, preferably rock fences if there must be any, or wood to keep wolves out. I would walk and walkabout.

I don't do that well here and now. I don't like phones much, mail and paperwork are ignored for the most part. I feel like everything about this time is making me sick. The immobility [taking a car to get out of the city to go hiking, grates] the poisons in our homes, food, immunizations et al. The freaking boundaries! The fact that so many people seem happy with them, while they make me weep with frustration.

I do like writing on the computer, ice cream, showers and toast. I need to be here too I guess. But I'd go back and breathe clean air, roam and roll in the hay [farmers are a turn on] for a lifetime or five, gladly.

Wanted to mention I do a lot of escaping. In books my favorite are fantasies in a time I described. I love foreign films and write my story of the same sorts of times as well.

I could go on, I'm sure.

Zeca
@zeca
07/18/13 06:45:25PM
116 posts

Past Life Incarnate


Empath

I find this very interesting. How did you figure out their respective lifetimes before now? And because I am a bit of an archaeology fan, do you think you can learn more about those times? That would be so cool. I think I'd like to meet this person, were I in your position.

Zeca
@zeca
07/17/13 10:26:31PM
116 posts

A look is all it takes


Empath

Thank you for your story. I hear you on the confidence troubles and the hesitance to open up and bring people into your space. To trust. You are so not alone.

I have asked myself so many times if I am entirely justified in holding people at arms length or if I am not giving them a chance to help me in the best way they know how. Often I say no way. I know how that will end, but I see vulnerable trusting folk, and how they relate, and how I am on the outside looking in. Maybe I could be a bit less stoic. I don't know. It has been a very long time coping quietly. My husband and sister listen [though only my husband knows about the empathy] when it all comes raining down, but one can only explain so much, there are just not words for the rest, it is so liquid and big, like the ocean.

There are kind and interested people I've let go by too, good and worthy people, I'm sure.

Zeca
@zeca
07/10/13 11:05:06PM
116 posts



If you can shield him, that just seems like mothering to me. You protect your baby. I can't even shield myself, but I have definitely done things to protect my children. And sometimes I wonder if it was all the right thing to do, but as it happens, I am their mother and they came to me and I do what I do with their sensitivity in mind. We will all endure honing, but children have mothers for a reason. Toughing it out can wait a bit longer.


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:21:02AM
Zeca
@zeca
07/07/13 11:38:38PM
116 posts



Welcome Josh, I have been here for a little while now, and check in frequently, especially when I am feeling awkward, lol [most of the time]. So much to see here, and even after my life being what it is and the last several years knowing, I still feel so green and whack, but not alone.


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:20:52AM
Zeca
@zeca
06/28/13 09:15:31PM
116 posts



I'd probably be something like the opposite of you, chaotic, messy, swimming, often wide open, though I am not what you'd call touchy feely. People tend to like to touch me, and I 'deal', but it can be quite uncomfortable. I tried not allowing it. That did not turn out to be a viable solution. I don't encourage it even so.

And welcome back, Shade, I'd like to hear more of your style, if you will.


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:20:31AM
Zeca
@zeca
06/14/13 08:03:14PM
116 posts



My thoughts: Don't fret about his other friend at all. Nobody can be everything for anyone and we all will experience so much and with so many different people in our lives, no jealousy. Offer to take him somewhere and do something fun, preferably something in the light of day with no question of any physical or emotional intimacy [not that it can't occur, but that it is not an expected/anticipated/feared part of the day]. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Let go. Maybe talk will happen, or not yet. Sometimes our giving and being can be taxing, and I don't mean to us. Take a day and just enjoy it. Hike, whatever you both like. If he wants to bring someone, so be it. This is trust. His and yours.

Zeca
@zeca
06/03/13 04:50:23PM
116 posts



Yes, I have done and still do, though it doesn't actually take very much food or junk, not really like binging in movies.

I think more what I do is sabotage myself. I neglect to eat for sustenance [have tea and toast] and then get so hungry after hours of this that I will eat anything, and more than I need to fix the hunger. Things go so much better for me when I eat protein in the morning. But again, I consistently blow it.

This is one of those things I know, but don't apply well. To feed yourself right is to love yourself. Really, the harder things are outside, the more important it is to take care of you. The better state you can keep yourself in nutrition wise, the less you are likely to lose control. Again, I am not doing this now myself, I just know what I need to do.

The other thing is not running from the pain but facing it. Accepting it and actively working through it. Meditation, time in nature, hot showers and art. Again, I really relate and am in that same place of trying to get to the place where I can consistently apply what I know. Instead I wallow and abuse myself with sugar.


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:20:01AM
Zeca
@zeca
05/24/13 07:19:26PM
116 posts

Confusion


Empath

Happens, yes, but doesn't have to be lots of people. Sometimes certain people, even one is enough.

I walk the most the isles at the grocery store. I need the visual prompt and I still will lose track and have to backtrack for things that may pop unbidden back into my head. Costco feels very convoluted and take my usual route, and kids racing about [mine] can make it trickier, so if I can leave them home, I do.

Math and I are not compatible. On good days and trying hard, I can do concepts, but basic arithmetic is very slow going.

I've spent the last say six years feeling slow, mentally, but I like something I read here recently, that we are functioning as us, and it is different, and we have to find a way to go with that. Make it work for us and try not to compare ourselves with those that are not constantly bombarded with everyone's input. That would slow anyone down. I'm sure there are ways you are very fast, even with people around.

And yeah, we are not going to explain ourselves for a mere hiccup in calculations. Or, lol, repetitive blanks.

As for people dominating conversations, I tend to just let them. I forget things I might say, I know this, so I just back off and listen. We listen, but I've come to see that I can't expect the same people I listen for to listen to me. And I generally know better than to spill it to them, though I've made mistakes. Still sometimes, out of somewhere, someone will surface and listen to me. It may be reciprocal, it may not. Or maybe I just tend to look for people outside my immediate circles to trust.

I feel a little like I am babbling ,but there you go.

Zeca
@zeca
05/02/13 12:24:00PM
116 posts



This is a good article, thanks!


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:19:32AM
Zeca
@zeca
03/26/13 02:28:52PM
116 posts



I will try to change bad dreams too, doesn't always work, but worth a try. Full color, yes, I like the way chuck described it above.

Zeca
@zeca
03/23/13 10:53:18PM
116 posts



Try. Don't talk yourself out of it. You are not going to 'know', unless you give this your best try. If she is not flattered, you'll then know. We've all been wrong on occasion. If that happens, you'll learn from it. Gather your confidence and ask her out. Best wishes Joshua.


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:19:13AM
Zeca
@zeca
03/23/13 10:41:34AM
116 posts



I can't recall having heard of this before, but its existence makes perfect sense to me. It feels very primal. Thank you for posting, I like learning of these kinds of things.

I did not get an immediate response of tingling, but it definitely had an effect. Like I said, it felt primal. Felt like a remembering of infancy or early childhood too. Cool.


updated by @zeca: 12/14/16 05:41:52PM
Zeca
@zeca
03/19/13 11:10:47PM
116 posts



No, I'm not clumsy, rather coordinated most of the time actually, grew slowly, always pretty much know where I am, but I start messing up verbally when I am overwhelmed, like my tongue is tripping over itself, haha.

Zeca
@zeca
01/23/13 11:06:09AM
116 posts



Mothers are fallible, and they know it. Half the time I am frustrated with my kids for slacking on the VERY few things I ask of them, I am also frustrated with myself, either for failing to teach them properly or just because I am frustrated in my own life and their lounging and asking me for things sets me off. Teens are tricky. You love them so much, but hugs and days at the park have been replaced with feed me and leave me be. My advice is to throw her a bone. Think of something you'd both be happy doing together, something where negativity is less likely to come into it. Ask to do that with her, maybe ask her to go walking with you, shopping, coffee at a book shop, the theater and then sometime when it feels calm, tell her you need the time in your room, the thinking space but that you are handling your stuff pretty well, thanks. She wants to know that you are doing alright, that you will have what it takes to cope in the world, despite the way it comes out. As soon as you can, you will move away, but for now, you've got to do your bestest to live together.

People can really get caught in negative loops. I have a very hard time myself with my mother in law. She watches crap news on TV and then when she visits, she brings it to us. We don't have cable for a very good reason. The things she's said in front of my kids, oy! It seems when people see bad stuff, or hear it, they need to share the burden in some way. The best thing is to stop watching, but failing that, we have to learn to put our foot down, or at the least, walk away. We also have to learn to take a chance and try to meet in the middle, give [especially loved ones] people lots of chances and focus on what is wonderful about them. Do this, and maybe she will try too. Remember, she is a soul struggling to cope on earth too. I love my mother in law very much, she is a really good person caught in a her own issues and loops. My mom is the same, lovely and difficult. I have my own stuff. I told my husband though that next time he is to take the kids and visit, and leave me in peace.

And I have two teens and remember well being one. We are a bit lazy and self centered much of the time. Still am. Ah well.

Since it does not sound like she remembered to tell you, 'You are wonderful, beautiful and probably only when you have children of your own, will you know how much I love you.

This is all learning. And it is hard. But like Bing has done, I've also asked for help. I've done it before going to sleep. I ask my higher self, or someone who loves me, could be an angel or someone passed, I don't know. I've only asked when my heart hurt really bad, and I've felt far better on the morning's after.

Zeca
@zeca
01/22/13 01:09:12PM
116 posts



Themes would be need, want, desire, love, inadequacy, insecurity, confusion, anger, and loads and loads of pain and frustration derived of such. But dang, that's me. Or as it goes, because that is me, that is what I am recognizing in others. You see what you know. I see far more on the spectrum, but seem to pay special attention to those things I am dealing with myself. It shows in what brings tears to my eyes, or what spins through my head on most days.

Zeca
@zeca
01/16/13 11:05:34AM
116 posts

Thank You


Empath

I too am so grateful for all of you! This place is a balm for heart and soul.

Zeca
@zeca
12/30/12 10:26:33PM
116 posts

Presentiments vs Rational Thinking?


Empath

I recommend, if you can, get away from everyone. Try being as much by yourself as you can for a day or two, and then contemplate your decision. Take a shower, do whatever you know how to clear yourself of anyone else's energy, and then see if you can better choose.

And fear not. Let go. Grin.

Zeca
@zeca
12/28/12 12:17:36PM
116 posts

Presentiments vs Rational Thinking?


Empath

Are both classes equal for requirements, or will you have to take the one you did not choose again? Are they two entirely different paths, like one direction in life or another? Or just classes? I don't know that I'll be of any help. Part of me says rise to your challenge and keep your present class, you chose it and there may be a reason. That there may be a good deal of growth. On the other hand, it may just be that your energies were being confused and you should never have left the first class and the second will be nothing but a waste of time. You see, I struggle too, because there are so many freaking possibilities, always!

I've had premonitions, done what was planned, and had it turn out alright because I was forewarned. So I don't necessarily think it means don't act or go, just be ready to listen and trust yourself when things get weird.

But I also think that we need to act in more ways that will have you feeling one with yourself and powerful. I find it frightening sometimes, so much so that I stop the good action and retreat in fear of change, even very good change. And each time I have to start again, convince myself again that I am meant to thrive and be alive.

So, which class is that?

Zeca
@zeca
12/19/12 02:26:21PM
116 posts

Boundaries & Personal space


Empath

It would take pages to fully explain my situation, but where I am now, I have come to see that with some people, love means letting someone cross those boundaries because it is not worth the pain they suffer, to remain closed to them. I will learn to handle it, I can, because affection is crucial.

I am not a huggy person, at all. I have definite space needs. I let my children in and my husband of course, I hug long distance family when I see them, friends when it seems right. But I've learned that in one case, it is wrong for me not to give physical support. It is very individual, and everyone has to decide themselves what needs to be, and what does not. But we are here on earth surrounded by others, and have been given the knowledge of need. Sometimes we have no choice but to deny it, we can't help, but sometimes we definitely can.

Zeca
@zeca
11/21/12 10:10:20PM
116 posts



Messy, unfocused and instinctive, exactly.

Zeca
@zeca
11/20/12 03:39:50PM
116 posts



One of my difficulties in the gaming or movie world is the assumption that just because you can do something, that you have control over it, or that it always happens/applies. Really, some percentage of the time would be a bust [for many of us, maybe not all] and we don't know, or miss stuff. And to make me look more like a spaz, I miss verbal information/connections often when I am overwhelmed with emotional stuff.

My sentence: Crazymaking ability to mesh with/see/feel/understand people/animals/nature whether you'd like to or not.

Zeca
@zeca
10/23/12 01:21:20PM
116 posts

Being the odd one out


Empath

Jonny, Oregon is going to do you good. I am going to take a walk this week, as soon as you get to Oregon, you do the same. Breathe the air, take in the moon, and soon as you can, find a river. Give yourself months and months in the northwest, to just be. There are wonderful people here. I recommend taking an art class.

Let your relationships rest a bit.

It feels good seeing you here, druid, as always. Your posts are soft.

Welcome to the Northwest.

Zeca
@zeca
09/24/12 08:03:20PM
116 posts



Thank you for the clarification, that makes sense. I've recently tried using two of the three you've described. Index to thumb is immediate. Wow. Index tucked with middle at thumb for strength is more subtle, but I like the idea and think there is potential, so will try it more often.

Zeca
@zeca
09/21/12 01:25:28PM
116 posts



Clear and concise! Hopefully I can remember and try it. I need to quiet my mind and cope on many an occasion. My only doubts are having someone notice.

Zeca
@zeca
09/05/12 02:37:14PM
116 posts



I wonder if you and your sisters would consider spending the time together as a tradition, but in the most positive light you can come up with. Go do something wonderful, spontaneous, interesting, crazy. I have not lost my mother, but came very close to it with her cancer years ago, and as mother now, to know that my children were spending time together joyfully when I am no longer around, would please me to no end. She brought you into this world body and soul and mother's want their children happy. Much, much, much love! Zeca


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Zeca
@zeca
08/21/12 01:18:43PM
116 posts



If you feel it was what you had to do, then it was. You trusted your heart, rightly. He will be alright. And so will you. Hurts bad, do some nice things for yourself, have tea, read, take walks, smile.


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:17:17AM
Zeca
@zeca
07/06/12 10:25:11PM
116 posts



Two recommendations. Playdates with friends, means you sort of babysit, but kids are occupied with each other. Media, movies, an ipod to quiet her. Play kid music on the stereo. And it does not last forever. Pretty soon you wish they wanted to talk to you again.


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Zeca
@zeca
03/17/12 01:00:17PM
116 posts

Facebook user? Need your help for my PhD dissertion on Empaths!


Empath

Welcome back Elise!

I have the same question as Michael.

Zeca
@zeca
08/27/11 09:34:33PM
116 posts



I've sent you a dragon. Tiny and courageous and full of love.
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Zeca
@zeca
08/12/11 11:26:04PM
116 posts

To Kill or not to Kill???


Empath

Yeah, I've done that with the accidental squishing. I am so very careful about the spiders legs when catching them, cause I think out in the wild, they need to be whole. Like imagining trying to survive in wild the without my thumbs or something.
Zeca
@zeca
08/11/11 11:55:57PM
116 posts

To Kill or not to Kill???


Empath

Also I try to encourage bees and wasps outside, taking the time to open windows, screens, coaxing them to the door.

I once was throwing boxes in a fire as a teen and was mean and knew an ant was in one of the boxes. I threw it in, and the little thing scurried with such frantic speed, back and forth trying to escape his doom, and seeing this I was instantly so so sorry, but could not then get the box out of the fire to save him. I still live with that guilt. Every ant on my property has that ant to thank, I think, for it's comfortable and reasonably safe home. The only exception is fire ants when I lived in Alabama. They crawled up my little boy's pants, up the inside, biting him along the way. That was the end of that hive. It was too close and too dangerous.

Zeca
@zeca
08/11/11 11:41:08PM
116 posts

To Kill or not to Kill???


Empath

I try not to hurt anything in it's environment, which is outside, except mosquitoes when they land on me. I don't use pesticides. When they come into my environment, it's a matter of what is possible to live with. I don't mind a few little spiders here and there. Big ones have to go. If I can't catch them because they are too fast and they look scary, I will kill them. I will try to catch most spiders. I have kill a scorpion. A few flies don't bother me. A bunch and we get out the swatter. We do have to spray the outside perimeter of our house for wood ants, they were trying to move in, so I guess we do use just that one thing. It is not sprayed in their home, just as a blockade so they won't cross onto the house I think you need to deal with termites too. We have ant piles and more are built every year, but those ants mostly mind their own business. We all need our space. The ant is not going to think twice about how the caterpillar feels being eaten alive. That is just the reality of this planet. Life and death. Just do your best.
Zeca
@zeca
08/09/11 11:15:34AM
116 posts



This has happened with me too, I have known what a driver is going to do, and they have done it exactly as I felt they would.
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Zeca
@zeca
07/29/11 09:37:54PM
116 posts

Pathetic


Empath

Yeah, I'm much more likely to say thank you, too! You're welcome gets caught in my throat. If I have to I'll nod and smile, or say, 'no problem'.
Zeca
@zeca
07/26/11 06:02:23PM
116 posts

Pathetic


Empath

Thank you Jacob for adding the surreal to my day. It is good to partake of regular doses.
Zeca
@zeca
07/26/11 01:27:15PM
116 posts

Pathetic


Empath

Yes it helps to know it's not just me. I just feel so socially clumsy so often.
Zeca
@zeca
07/26/11 12:53:17PM
116 posts

Pathetic


Empath

Does anyone else find themselves overly grateful for small kindnesses? Relieved to find someone notices you exist? I am honest in my gratitude, only to feel I've gone too far and look just pathetic. And then I hide, again feeling I can't cope with people. This feels like a pattern, since it's happened often. And yet, compliments often render me mute when I know socially I should return the nicety. I say thank you, but then something foolish if anything at all. I give compliments easily, but get all messed up and lack grace the other way around.
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Zeca
@zeca
07/21/11 05:27:52PM
116 posts



I'm not autistic, yet I still have a heck of a time dealing with people much of the time, so it's not just you, and its not easy. When I abandon my social manners, and speak to the heart, I can be intense, very blunt, and I know what you mean about people not really appreciating that. Its funny, if you had a cape and braids and came out of the forest, people might line up and thank you for your honesty. Not so much otherwise.

Mostly, I too ,would not mind living like a Druid. Would not mind at all. And yet we have children, and methinks they would mind. So... my best advice to you is to be you, to do your utmost to be aware for your family, social when you can make it work, and thoughtful, and beyond that, don't fret. If you've got children who love you, you are doing fantastic.

LOL, I am so good at giving advice I have trouble following myself.


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Zeca
@zeca
07/16/11 01:17:40AM
116 posts

Am I picking this up or is it me?


Empath

Spot on Malene, I see this, btdt, and totally agree that people need to get off the crazy train, and are right to do so when things start spiraling out of control.

Zeca
@zeca
07/14/11 10:45:47AM
116 posts

Feel. Just "FEEL"


Empath

I know. I like your poem.
Zeca
@zeca
07/12/11 02:02:46PM
116 posts

I expect you can relate


Empath

The BeeGees make me happy. I can't seem to get enough of their goodness.
Zeca
@zeca
07/12/11 11:57:30AM
116 posts

I expect you can relate


Empath

I should have said more, and can't find the edit button now. This is a song I love. I see an empath here and feel less alone.
Zeca
@zeca
07/11/11 12:38:59PM
116 posts



I see a baby. If you knocked her up, love her like she is your very breath. This is no time for ambivalence. She has to trust you now especially. Be very available.

Edited to say I am not claiming any vision but good sense.


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Zeca
@zeca
07/11/11 11:55:52AM
116 posts



I think I was born this way. When I was very small, I told my parents to slow down for the deer in the road. And there was one, but not one I could have seen with my eyes. I remember when I was about five, feeling like I could not give something to one parent without the other feeling badly. It was one of the first clues I had that I could feel someone else's emotions. I really felt it when someone was not being fair, even if I was not the one they were being unfair with. And without a reason for not doing something, or even with one, if I don't agree with it, I do what I want.

Not until last year did I discover the term empath as something that related to me. I gave it a rest, kind of unsure how to pursue it, and then found my way here some six months later. Now I look back through my life and so many things make perfect sense, if you look at them again through the lens of empathy!

Lastly, I began a book, some years ago, and did not realize until I started looking about here, how much it had to do with being empathic. It is very telling looking back on it, and I'd not intentionally written any character as an 'empath', but most of them had tendencies of one sort or another.

And I had come across the term reading and watching movies, but they were always like adept and kind of super, and I just feel like a freak most of the time. In fact I find it very interesting, the things I notice, and the things I am really oblivious to. I know I am impaired. I am focusing on turning that around before I can hope to be a functional, or helpful empath. I don't know how I feel about shielding. I haven't figure it out yet. I have work to do, but now at least I know what I am and a little more of what is going on that makes me out to be a friendly hermit. I am really social and enthusiastic occasionally, and then absolutely the opposite much of the time. I think it must be confusing to be my friend, my mother, and my sister.

Zeca
@zeca
07/06/11 01:08:46PM
116 posts



I thought this would be a good place to mention that I got myself into a bad pattern of feeling bad because it was the only way I felt I could be by myself. If I was feeling fine and good when someone called, I did not have an excuse to be alone. I felt guilty for being antisocial. This began long before I realized I was empathic, before I realized that I need the time alone, and a lot of it!

I am working on turning this around. It is not fair to me or my family to live a half life out of guilt. I also realized that I have been far more selfish than I probably would have if I had just allowed myself to be me to begin with. I realize it is all a learning process, but man that took me a long time to figure out.


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Zeca
@zeca
06/30/11 11:08:43PM
116 posts

Vision to do with a dress [may be tough to see]


Empath

Oh, I meant not use it. Not touch it just vehemently meant I won't play with it, not on a bet, not at all. I could touch it and would consider myself responsible for it in the case you mention. It was so pretty, the dress, but I had and odd moment of shivers retrieving it, and took it outside quickly. The dress is now ashes, unusable, except maybe fertilizer, unrecognizable. I sent the trouble away as best I knew how, singing loud with the BeeGees directly afterward. Thank you again, Christine.

Zeca
@zeca
06/30/11 12:20:18PM
116 posts

Vision to do with a dress [may be tough to see]


Empath

Thank you for taking the time to look into this. I did not get rid of it and let them wear it for lack of faith in myself, I guess. Part of me thought I was just being morbid. Part of me knew trouble when I saw it, and insisted I don't let it have power over me or mine. Foolish, perhaps, and yet I have believed, and still do, that to some extent, I can allow the dark in or not. I don't ever touch a Ouija board. That to me is asking for it. I'm thinking I will burn it, so whatever is attached can hopefully go home without hurting anyone. Thanks again.
Zeca
@zeca
06/30/11 10:51:30AM
116 posts

Vision to do with a dress [may be tough to see]


Empath

This happened a few years ago. I had this dress I got at a thrift store, I still have it. Sort of pink with white accents, long, a little old fashioned looking and with a Euro label. Not old though, no more than a decade. Anyway, I started to see it soaked with blood in a bad way. Just stained with blood all across the front starting about the stomach. This does not normally happen to me, though I have had the occasional dreams and premonitions.

It frightens me now to think I ignored this, and let my twins wear it. I was really vigilant when they did, and I saw it any time they wore it, which was not often because they had lots of clothes. I was relieved when they grew out of it, and I could put it away. But I don't know what to do with it. I don't dare give it to another child. I don't want to keep it either lest it be put on a grandchild or accidentally be given to someone. Destroy it? Is there even anything wrong with the dress?

Any ideas where this image might have come from? Or feelings on if it is over and done with or still a danger?


updated by @zeca: 01/13/17 02:12:58AM
 
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