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Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/13/16 04:09:17PM
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Differences between Bipolar Disorder and Being a Empath


Empath

Hi mommy4,

I used to be a psychiatric social worker, (now disabled) so I will address your question about Bipolar Disorder specifically from my training and point of view.

There are some very bad therapists out there, especially at the pill mills, where you cannot actually get any talk therapy now days. They'll gladly diagnose you in five minutes or less with whatever the latest expensive pill from Big Pharma is treating, just so they can win a free trip to the Bahamas or some other bribe. If you've encountered one of  these, get another opinion please!

They have a relatively new diagnosis, called Bipolar Type II, which is almost indistinguishable from atypical depression aka agitated depression aka irritable depression, a much more common condition that affects 40% of all those with depression, in which irritability replaces apathy in an otherwise common presentation of depressive symptoms. There are no other symptoms of Bipolar Disorder or they are very mild, and IMO, may describe almost anyone. This again gives them the right to hand you some very expensive and dangerous anti-psychotic meds, when you may really need treatment for depression instead. If you've encountered this, please get a second opinion!

Having said all that, Bipolar Disorder Type I definitely exists and is a very serious psychosis. However, nobody with decent training would ever confuse it with being an empath. I will give you 3 examples of  typical Bipolar manic behavior from actual patients I've had. Ask yourself if any of this sounds like an empath to you.....

1. This patient went into a manic episode and decided it would be fun to steal a car and drive it over 100 mph on the highway, in the wrong direction! She eventually went off the roads when  the cops chased her. She gave no thought to the danger or consequences, as is typical during these episodes.

2. This patient told her husband she was expanding her business to another nearby town. She then went on the Internet and arranged hookups with many different men at motels in that other town about twice a week, until he finally got suspicious and followed her. Promiscuity is a very common manic symptom.

3. This patient was worshipped by his adoring wife. He died, and afterwards she found he had several secret credit cards with thousands of dollars in debts from paying for porn on the Internet. Big spending sprees are another common feature of mania for some, often including gambling, but  in this case it was combined with the urge to be promiscuous. 

I don't know any real empaths who behave this way. Causing others this kind of pain is something we empaths work hard to avoid. I hope this will help you sort this out.

Regards,

Cheshire Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/12/16 05:59:07PM
1,185 posts

VENTING!


Empath

Hi Renee,

Thanks for your perspective. I have just recently mended fences with two people I was in this position with. There is one more I wish to do so with, but like your friend, I can't push her. It's not my job to fix her, but to be there to listen, which I can't do when I am being rejected due to her bitterness over her situation and her guilt because my situation is worse but I handle it better. We are different and she should not compare herself to me. I have made some peace with it, but it is sad. I hope your situation will have a happy ending as well, and that your example of success will show your children and your friend a way out just by being who you are, a shining example for when they are ready.

May you be blessed,

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/12/16 02:09:34PM
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Empath

Wow, C.W., now I really feel ancient. Your question made me laugh. 

I am a dinosaur who only uses an old flip cell phone for emergencies,  and when I post pics here I do it by finding one I like on my iMac desktop and just dragging it into the text box here at EC.

I'm sure someone else will give you the right answer to your question, but I just had to post. I was so amused at how far out of the tech loop I am...... ;-)

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/11/16 03:25:03PM
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Empath

Thanks for the caring, Nikki.

It is now 54 yrs. of friendship by my count, since we never stopped loving each other. We were just both too proud to be first to ask to try to work it out again. Stupid pride. 

I also have 2 other friendships that have lasted 54 years, since all of them started when I moved to a new state and began the 7th grade. One I hear from rarely, but the other is still a close one and I trust her totally. She has known me since I was a 12 yr. old wild child, lol.

I found the childhood friends are the ones who stick with you when you become seriously ill. The friends  I'd made where I live now as an adult all left me when I got sick, with only 2 exceptions, and they were both casual friends who turned out to be life savers. 

Studies show the happiest people are those who never move more than 60 miles from where they grew up. Other studies were done to find out why and it turned out only one thing mattered....those people still had some of their childhood friends. These folks bond with you just like siblings, before you are old enough to start discriminating, so the bonds tend to be more unconditional. 

I made a point out of keeping old friends despite moving so far away, since it is hard for me to find people who meet my ethical standards and have enough brains or curiosity to interest me. I'll bet you can relate to that. I think all empaths want people with high ethics.

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/11/16 02:05:39PM
1,185 posts

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Empath

For anyone who has been reading my posts on this thread:

Amazing news! I did decide to go ahead and write positive 11-11 messages of love and forgiveness to both my 52 yr. long BFF, who ended it a year and a half ago, and to the person who has been my closest friend for the last 3 yrs. and got very angry with me a few days ago. I am not sure how that last will be received yet and wish her well no matter what, but am glad I expressed my gratitude for having had her in my life, regardless of outcome.

The good news is I now have my oldest friend back after a nasty and seemingly final end to a very long friendship and a year and a half apart! We just got off the phone. It turned out she'd been feeling just as bad about what happened and my email love offering was an excuse to tell me so. I was shocked, since I did not expect any response. We talked it all out, I was assertive about how much it hurt me and how I would not tolerate certain things, and we agreed to only use the phone from now on, since email misunderstandings due to the tone of voice were the main cause of the problem to begin with. I will not be super trusting here until I see what happens, if ever, and it will be a less close relationship than before, since we are so different now than in younger days, but it shows what you can accomplish when you reach out in humility and love. 

For anyone who has lost a dear friend, there may be hope if you can make the first move. :-)

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/11/16 12:30:10PM
1,185 posts

VENTING!


Empath

Nikki,

   Yep, we sound a lot alike, except that I have very advanced have Lyme Disease, and instant, uncontrollable  rage is an unfortunate part of that. I had zero temper before I got sick and in fact, no temper was pretty much a requirement for my former profession.

     The non-attachment meditations and huge doses of Omega 3 fish oil I take are helping a lot with keeping my cool, but I also avoid people who trigger me like the plague and isolate a lot to do it, since I do not want to go off at people, and like most empaths, I hate confrontations.

    Like you, I normally remove myself from those people, having moved and left jobs numerous  times to avoid confrontation when I was single, but I now live in a place I cannot move from due to my husband's business, where I have horrible neighbors on two sides, and was subjected to almost 3 decades of abuse from a Narcissist FIL and BIL. The BIL still lives next door, but we cannot move for reasons I won't bore you with. I use very strong shields, and our 6 ft. tall solid wood fence helps too. 

   At 43, I think of you as a spring chicken! If I was 43, I'd be in graduate school, making up for the biggest mistake I ever made, which was not getting my PhD so I could do challenging work instead of the boring stuff I got with only a BA. I also needed it so I could be in a job where i could surround myself with other brainiacs like me and not feel like such a freak among the people I am exposed to. I would put serving the happiness of men in my life last instead of first like I did, and serve my own happiness first. I had hoped my generation was the last one to do that, but I have seen some disturbing evidence that it is not so. 

   There is a famous saying about us being crushed between regret over the past, which leads to depression, and fear of the future, which leads to anxiety. I think staying in the present would got a long way to ease the endless ruminations empaths are prone to, but it sure is hard to maintain!

C. Cat

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11/11/16 10:28:44AM
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Empath

I feel led to post my favorite prayer and I hope nobody is offended. Happy 11-11 everyone!

The light of God surrounds us

The love of God enfolds us

The power of God protects us

The presence of God watches over us

Wherever we are, God is.

And all is well. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/11/16 09:58:30AM
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Empath

Nikki,

I don't know how old you are, but I would have written exactly what you just wrote when I was  much younger. I think I was about 50 when things started to change and I stopped seeing only the good. I'm a slow learner, lol, and am now 65.  I realized that potential is just that, potential only, and I can't make anyone use it. People rarely change. I think this is not just an empath issue. I have noticed that young women are far more likely to fall in love with potential than men are, and to think if we just love someone enough, they will change for us. I said "young women" because I don't know anyone near to my age who still believes that.  I also have to look at my own unused potential and my own bad choices, many of which were not really clear until I was too old to do anything to reverse them. 

Like you, I've also been told by friends that I am "too easy" and that I put up with mistreatment far too long before I speak up. That is true. I tend to be so shocked when people behave in a way that I never would that I just do nothing. I don't know what to say to them, since I can't conceive of why they act or speak that way. Once it builds to where it becomes intolerable to my self esteem, then I blow, like a volcano. That rage is something I am working on, but it's darn difficult after a lifetime of this garbage and when I know that even an early, reasonable attempt to disagree with someone will result in them dropping me, so I keep holding on, which I know is stupid. If they're going to drop me for something ridiculous, then let's get it over with and quit wasting my time. 

I am also old enough to remember when almost everyone respected other people's right to disagree and they were still friends! Imagine that. That is as rare as hen's teeth now. 

I am considering writing to both my former BFF and my recent BFF since it is 11-11, and sending them positive appreciation magnified by the date 11-11, in gratefulness for all I learned from them, sine I truly do not feel any animosity at all, a wonderful gift from my studies of non-attachment and huge doses of Omega 3 EPA oil, which have helped calm me down tremendously. But, I don't expect anything to change from that. 

I think it wonderful that you are starting to realize these things at such a young age. Hopefully, you will not end up as worn out and untrusting as I am as a result of your early insights. :-)

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/11/16 02:37:24AM
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Empath

Rene and nikki3,

Thank you so much for the very thoughtful responses. I am now in that same situation once again, where my opinion is unacceptable and has resulted in my being called some hurtful and untrue things, but this time I will not handle it the way I've done in the past, which was by falling apart completely for months, and not going a single day without thinking of the loss of someone I loved with unbearable sadness lasting for years. I have a new mantra I use in my Qi Gong each morning, ie. "It's not mine, it's not reality, it's not worth it, and I am safe". 

Your comments have helped a lot. I have been practicing detachment meditation for awhile now, and I think I finally am there, for which I am very grateful to this same person, who ironically is the one who got me interested in it. I think I have been through this often enough now that I have become numb and find myself very calm and unaffected, and have been able to sleep just fine. I am up in the middle of the night, but that is normal for me, since I have 3 sleep disorders. I can simply let it go, or maybe just express thanks for all the things I've learned from her and always remember them.

nikki3 - Do you ever read themindsjournal? I just saw an article there recently called 'Blunt friends are the best kind to have" which you may enjoy. I agree that many people need lies to handle life and I can feel which areas I must leave alone and not comment on, but maybe I go over the line sometimes when I see someone ruining their life over the same issue endlessly. They'd rather have the familiar drama of abuse than face reality, drop toxic people and have some peace I guess. I do not know because I can't relate to wanting those kind of people in my life. I get dropped instead of the toxic people. As an "extreme realist" I get frustrated with this and maybe it shows and they feel judged. Like I said, I'm not good at games. I know this constant undervaluation of my worth as a friend must be partly my fault, since I am the common denominator in it, so I'm trying to guess what I am doing wrong to make people value me so little. It may be that I am doing something right too, in which case I am totally ready to accept being friendless the rest of my life rather than play a game. I still have several casual friends and they'll have to be enough.though most live far from me now. 

I don't look for friends in everyone or even anyone now, after losing so many close ones in a row, which is fulfilling a premonition I had that I would lose everyone I care about before I can die, even my husband. and that would kill me off too if I lost him. I don't meet many people due to being cooped up in a tiny home office running my husband's business, and the state of my own health limits my activities a lot. I have not found anyone here in 36 years who is really my kind of friend and I have tried and tried. There is one who comes close, but works so much I hardly see her. She says  I am her only friend. I did meet one on EC here who mirrored me and seemed perfect, but it was an act to draw me in and then control my life. I was the one to end that and it hurt just as much to have to be on the other end.

Like Renee said at the start of this thread, people are just impossible to please and in my case they make no effort to please me, but expect me to bend over backwards to please them. If we teach people how to treat us, then how can we be kind and firm at the same time? IME, that results in them getting huffy and leaving. I am DONE walking on egg shells. It is too bad nobody except two of my old friends like me enough to argue with me over anything and still respect and like me, the mark of true caring. It's easier to accept differences when it's casual, I guess. Emotional investment seems to require more and more conformity from people.

I have to go back to bed. This has been an interesting thread and I hope we all learned from it that we are not alone in having these problems. I sure got some help. Thanks.

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/10/16 08:04:33PM
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Empath

Sigh. I also  recognize the examples both of you just gave, Renee and nikki3. People are predictable in our strangeness, lol.

Another one that really gets to me is when others will put up with numerous people who treat them horribly, put them down, walk all over them, take advantage, lie, cheat, mooch, yell at them, and treat them like dirt in general, but the minute I disagree with them on the tiniest little unimportant thing, they drop me as a friend. It makes me feel about as low as you can get, to be worth so little to people. Often, these people have been telling me they love me, I am a "dear friend', I am "like a sister", I can "never lose them no matter what", etc. right up until I say something they don't agree with. 

It has taken awhile to dawn on me, but I think maybe I am interpreting this wrong, and they really feel so badly about themselves that they think they deserve the awful treatment they get, and just use whatever it was I disagreed with them about as an excuse to get rid of me, since they feel I see through their act, whatever it happens to be. They feel they can't live up to what I expect, even though I keep that to myself, since I know I have no right to expect anything from anyone. I guess I am pretty transparent in letting them see what I wish I could expect, since I've even been told by two people that they felt like they were good people until they knew me, and that I made them feel bad about themselves just by being who I am. Their answer to my "making" them feel bad was that I should be less of a "goody two shoes" and "make more mistakes" and "be more human". The idea that I should be less than I can be made me angry, so you would think seeing me blow a gasket would satisfy them, but no, I'm still not nasty enough I guess. It's actually funny to me now. 

I could have more friends than I could handle if I would put up and shut up and play those games. I have standards, and know from experimenting that I am better off alone than to lower them. Being surrounded by the wrong people makes me feel lonelier than being alone. When I was younger, probably the age of most of you, I had a small tight group of very close friends. I had to move for health reasons and have never fit in where I have to live now. I seem to  have a bunch of casual ones instead, most of whom I rarely or never see in person. Casual is just not who I am, so it's hard. 

Can any of you relate to my example above, where "friends" willingly accept awful treatment from others, but the slightest disagreement, even on a relatively unimportant subject is not acceptable when it comes from you? I wonder what I am doing wrong here to be so unvalued.

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/10/16 07:18:59PM
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Empath

nikki3,

Thanks for making me feel less alone. We are a lonely bunch comparatively speaking. I think that friend of yours may actually be a true friend if he can take that level of honesty and still hang in there. 

I wonder why some people continue to lie when they know we can read them? As for calling them on it, I have repeated word for word to people the truth as I've seen it in their minds, have them look scared to death and back away from me, and then try to weasel out of it with another even bigger lie! What level of self-deception does it take to do that and think you'll get away with it? Darned if I know. I gave up doing it, since it just makes me feel more frustrated and if I give someone enough rope to hang themselves with, they always comply. It gets boring after awhile. 

I feel like I've been incarnated into the insane asylum of the galaxy. Or maybe I'm in a psych ward right now and am hallucinating this whole life.......Now I'm really scaring myself! That would be a relief though, if I could snap out of it. ;-)

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/10/16 03:27:20PM
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Empath

renee,

   I LOVE your first post and could have written it. I too am so sick of the LOADED COMMENTS and people who do not have abilities and/or do not believe I have them thinking I am so stupid I cannot pick up the veiled insult. I put up with a few years of that from my former BFF before finally calling her on it just once. Like you said, no matter what you do, you just can't win. All I said was "those digs really hurt" and for that she ended a 52 year friendship. We had been through everything together. I never know what to do when I get those type of comments. They seem impersonal, but then I think.... why send them to me if they're not directed at me? I am in that position right now and have no idea what to do. I want to go crawl into a bear den and hibernate. Being unconscious is the only time I'm free from all the rules of the game, like you said. Trouble is, I don't want to play any damn games. Life is too short.

    Also loved your comments, Rene and Nikki3. I too will not pretend to be someone else, and cannot hide my real feelings. I also have a resting bitch face, lol. I was on TV once getting impatient to have my turn to talk and was horrified to see angry impatience written all over my face when I saw the program later on, lol. I'd never win a poker game.

   C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/10/16 01:59:42PM
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We as empaths need to unite together PLEASE READ and share your input


Empath

Rene,

I sure hope you were not looking down in your vision on the place that I was living in my dream! It was the same as all my past life dreams, otherwise I'd dismiss it, since I only dreamt it once, and I often dream past life dreams several times in a row. For me, that kind of dream is very different from a normal dream and every detail is remembered forever afterwards, including the temperature, the smell of the earth, every emotion, etc. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/10/16 11:36:16AM
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We as empaths need to unite together PLEASE READ and share your input


Empath

Rene,

  I did not share your cloaked observer vision of destruction, but I had a dream from a future life many years ago. It was AWFUL. I got that the year was 2326, and I'd been sent here with a very small expedition of 5 descendants of those who'd made it off planet in time, to see if earth was habitable yet. It was not. The planet was nothing but empty, dead turquoise seas and dead sand dunes. I got the feeling of nuclear annihilation as the cause. Worse, those of us who had survived had become cruel and hard, and women were treated like things. Ever since, I've prayed that was an alternate timeline that might not have to happen.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/10/16 08:33:59AM
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We as empaths need to unite together PLEASE READ and share your input


Empath

I agree with Bing. "Things are not getting worse, they are getting uncovered". Our own complicit role in this is being uncovered and it will cause a lot of ugliness as we are forced to face our shadow sides. I rose above political divisions and labels long ago, and hope this is not construed as taking any political side, since I do not think that way and am not on a "side". People in my life have kept trying to force me on to sides, with painful consequences for all.

I am afraid to even post any of  this, but will be myself, no matter the cost. It now appears that I've already lost two more friends (both empaths!) who still believe in this two party dog and pony show, only a year after losing my best friend of 52 years over it. So, I will say this and hope all here will be adult enough to allow me my opinion. I am wondering.....If more of the same old sh*t had won, what would the unawake learn from that? How would that have helped us advance?

I could be all wrong, but I think someone who is also negative but who promises to be totally different can act as a positive catalyst. The people now expect things to change dramatically and when they do not and cannot, since the real rulers will go right on with their agenda behind the scenes, and may be using this to their advantage to foment a civil war right now, then the people will finally (I hope) be open to the messy take down of the whole rotten system, which must occur for real change to take place. How else would they wake up to this?

Rene, thanks for turning me onto the Scorpions. I'm too old to know who they are and really liked that song. I'm also old enough to have seen people react this way to Presidential elections before, and to have seen a President murdered for refusing to do what the real rulers wanted him to do to Miami and Cuba and for his attempting to remove the source of their power (the federal reserve). Previous Presidents have also been murdered for attempting to end the Federal Reserve's power over us, Andrew Jackson being one who survived a couple of attempts on his life before they finally got him. 

This is not new. It is the coming out into the open of it which is new, where all who did not know of it will be appalled, once they stop hating on each other and face it. At this stage, we are still letting them divide us into all sorts of opposites, so we don't look at them and see where the real problem lies. First, we must solve our problem, our continued childish belief in separation from each other, which I am seeing get much worse, not better. I can only pray it is the darkness before the dawn. 

I am very sad today, but am hoping we can keep on shining our lights and rise above this to see the things of this world as not worth fighting over when compared to the glory and power of our oneness.

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/09/16 03:01:09PM
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Empath

CW -

That sounds great to me. Keeping it going for the whole 3 days is a wonderful idea, considering the magnitude of the problem. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/09/16 01:06:40PM
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Empath

This Friday, 11-11, would also be a good day, since all energies put out that day should be magnified if I remember the esoteric meaning of the numbers 11-11 correctly, so positive thoughts and feelings should be amplified. So will negative ones, and there will be an urgent need to counteract them by people who know this. 

I agree the manifestation of ego, fear of change, and the need to be "right" in some people is running right over any feelings of love and tolerance, if they ever really had them. The vitriol is so intolerant and shocking, I wonder if some people's true personalities haven't been hidden all along.  This is super negative and disappointing, but also quite revealing. 

Anything we can do to ameliorate this would be a great idea. Count me in. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/06/16 03:24:12PM
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Is it a wise idea to wear more than one gemstone?


Tools for Empaths

lucky-seven,

   I think it's great that crystals have such a strong effect on you. If you don't need anything else, that's great.

    I wonder if birthstones work at all for the people whose month they match, like your Topaz being for November birthdays. My birthstone is amethyst, and I wear it a lot, but do not notice much. Only quartz seems to help me, and nothing works for me like your topaz does. 

   My depression is chronic and severe, secondary to my having a slowly terminal illness that has severely limited my life and made me constantly miserably ill for over 30 years. I wish I could find a crystal strong enough to fix that. 

   I've studied to be a Naturopath, but did not finish due to my illness and also practicing is illegal in the state I live in. Magnesium would help anxiety, not depression. If you are only going to try one supplement for depression, I would go by the seriousness of the depression. If mild to moderate, I'd use a high EPA fish oil, unless you already eat wild caught salmon at least twice weekly. If depression is severe, I'd use D-Phenylalanine, 8 weeks on, then 8 weeks off, then repeat, unless you have high blood pressure like I do, in which case, do not touch it! If you have high blood pressure, you might try a SAMe supplement, about 200 mgs. to start and see if that is enough, since it is expensive. I am assuming your thyroid and adrenal glands have been properly checked first. One of the major causes of depression is low thyroid function, especially if you are female and over 50, and many doctors do not test properly or understand that new normal ranges were put out in 2003 and the labs have not kept pace. I have no idea of your age or gender, sorry if this info does not apply.

   C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/06/16 08:59:42AM
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Is it a wise idea to wear more than one gemstone?


Tools for Empaths

Hi lucky-seven,

   Of the stones you mention, I only have one, the amber. I use it for digestive problems, but will try wearing it more. 

   The best thing for my depression so far has been massive doses of Max EFA fish oil and L-tryptophan, plus walking outdoors when possible. 

   Thank you for the ideas,

    C. Cat 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
11/02/16 10:23:41AM
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Animals getting all the sh** thrown towards me


Animal Empaths

I've had the same problem with my pets suffering because of my own illness. It made me feel awful.

Have you tried putting a permanent shield around each of your pets with the stated intention of allowing the light through, but keeping out all negativity including physical illness? I guess you'd need to include relatives and maybe friends pets also, after what happened with your grandma's bird. 

Cheshire Cat
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10/30/16 01:59:27PM
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Smarts


Empath

Hi Tigerlily,

    Very interesting question!

    I skipped 5th grade and was almost allowed to skip all of high school due to my grades and IQ. (They decided it would hamper my emotional development to let me skip any more grades). My mother, who had the same IQ as I do (140), was also an empath, and graduated first in her college class. She was awarded 3 degrees and a teaching certificate all at once, and the degrees were in very different subjects. I only got one degree, so I am an underachiever in our family, lol. 

   I think I read the same article you did. Was it at themindsjournal? I'm not sure about this connection, since I feel empaths are generally right brain dominant, while scoring high on IQ tests may require left brain dominance. Maybe empaths can use both equally? 

    In order to uncover the amount of brain damage I have from Lyme Disease and a car accident at which I was declared dead on the scene, I had repeat IQ testing at the age of 43, the first time I'd had a test when old enough to remember the questions. They did not allow any paper, even for math, since they wanted to test my brain power on it's own. I was shocked that some of the questions were clearly a measure of education, not innate ability, so I wonder how much relevance the tests really have, since there are many types of intelligence, emotional intelligence, for one example, which is considered far more important to a happy life than IQ. 

    For example, they asked me who wrote the book "Faust". I happen to know that, but all it proves is that I had a good education in literature. For a point of reference, the IQ required to join MENSA, placing one in the top 2%, is 132. I am certainly no expert on IQ, so the answers to this thread should prove very interesting. 

    Cheshire Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/29/16 05:55:20PM
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Do you give advice?


Empath

Hi Cat Whisperer,

     I do understand your feelings and if I know somebody is the type to jump into the pool without checking to see if there is any water in it first, I let them have their desired drama, but I also try not to make myself available as a crying shoulder afterward, since those types tend to be bottomless pits of need, and I need a nice boring life now to keep on keepin' on. My overstimulation bucket is full already.

     I wish I had the URL to an article I read so I could give it to you.  It helped me to understand that I don't need to give up giving out the info, I just need to give up being attached to the outcome. The idea was that any time you are attached to the outcome of any advice you give, over time it will make you crazy. Outcome is not your responsibility. I still have trouble with this, but keep reminding myself it's not my job to fix people. My job is to get the info out and work on fixing myself, which is hard enough. Of course, that is only how I feel, and I agree it gets very frustrating to be ignored. It makes me wonder why we have these gifts if everyone is just going to ignore them, and meanwhile they make us into nervous wrecks. Only speaking for myself here, since I am one! It's a conundrum and I can see both sides.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/29/16 12:02:47PM
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Sympathy vs empathy


Empath

Excellent article, Elise! Thanks. Happy

I also have been hurt so badly the past few years that I feel distanced sometimes, despite my empathic feeling of someone's pain. I don't want to let anybody in until I can regain some resilience. It may be a temporary condition for you, Renee, only lasting until you build up your adrenal reserves again, though this can take quite some time. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/29/16 11:23:03AM
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Do you give advice?


Empath

I have a different attitude, so I thought I'd throw it in for people to ponder.....

What about when you can see that someone has a serious illness, but can be saved if they act fast, but will kill them if not? Do you tell them then, and just not attach yourself to the outcome, or try not to?

What if you pick up that someone is about to commit suicide? Do you tell one of their close family members? 

What if you see clearly that a good friend is developing the same dementia that killed both her parents? Early intervention can slow it way down for many people. Do you keep quiet?

I've been in all of the above situations, felt like you all did, and kept my mouth shut in the first two cases. Both people died just as I'd foreseen, and I've never forgiven myself, so my policy after that has been to speak up. I do not care if they think I'm nuts, if they end the relationship with me, if they bad mouth me, etc. I feel I have to.

The third example happened after this change in policy, and speaking up thus ended my longest and closest friendship, since she took my caringly expressed request that she be evaluated by her doctor as an "accusation" of having it for sure,  and a lack of accepting her as she was, such inappropriate anger and denial being a sign of dementia also. 

You are correct many people do not want to hear. I've lost other friends over this. I just can't live with myself if I do not say something. The deaths of those two people who changed my mind about speaking up will haunt me forever. The wife of the suicide told me he was stubborn and nobody would have talked him out of it, when I told her what I'd seen after his death. However, the woman in the first example was spiritual and open to such abilities. I had just met her and was afraid she would think I was nuts if I told her I thought she had liver cancer. Now I don't care what anyone thinks. 

I also find telling people to be a good way to root out liars in your social circle. I had one long time friend panic when I told her, insist I was not an empath but a sympath, though she knew nothing about such subjects, and distance herself, all because she was afraid I'd pick up all the lies she'd told and the selfish acts she was ashamed of. I'd already picked those up long ago and accepted them, but she couldn't deal with her act being found out.

Isn't there anyone like me who feels we get such info on purpose to help and must use it?

I know the price can be high, since I miss my old friend every day, but the price for not talking is higher, at least for me.

Namaste,

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/27/16 08:09:25AM
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Psychic Development Workshop: Psychic Protection - The Bubble Method


Psychic and Paranormal

Paul,

What is diamentine? Is this your own word for diamond-like? If so, I like it.

An electrified field ought to do the trick for sure. I will try one next time I go to the huge medical clinic we frequent, which is full of other sick people whose illnesses I sure do not need on top of my own.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/26/16 04:21:37PM
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Psychic Development Workshop: Psychic Protection - The Bubble Method


Psychic and Paranormal

For me, the bubble set up that works best so far is a three layer bubble. The layer closest to me is just white source light that looks like snow falling, extending as far as your circle in the picture you provided. The second layer is a couple of feet further out and is made of gold, dented with small craters all over it and quite thick. This is to attract the light in people and people of the light. The third layer is like cobalt blue semi-transparent rubbery stuff, and is another few feet out from me, but can be adjusted to encompass as large an area as I need. It keeps out dark energy. From my crown issues a fountain of violet light sparkles. This repels those who are dark. 

This may seem like overkill also, but where I live, I'm surrounded by some very dark people, and we cannot move. I also do a Qi Gong exercise each morning in which I add grounding with white source light extending from my feet down into the earth.  I also push out the white snow like source light energy of my inner bubble into the world all around me to replace darkness with love and light. I state my intent that it will flow through me always, leaving enough light energy for me to function, and pouring the rest out into my surroundings to make more love in the world. 

If forced to go into a crowded place, I add a crystal medallion, for me rose or clear quartz works best, and sometimes quadruple the thickness of the outer blue layer. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/18/16 08:42:01AM
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Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Hi Elise,

No, I did not get a notification. As Renee said, I only get them from the main forum and PMs. 

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/17/16 06:58:59AM
1,185 posts

Increased Emphatic Sensitivities


Empath

dproper - thanks for the explanation of tartarus. I had heard of it, but did not know much about it.  I stopped calling on archangels awhile ago, when they kept failing the test of being asked if they were of the light. They cannot lie when asked directly. I go directly to the white light of source now and make a point of stating out loud every morning that I am a sovereign being and will not honor any prebirth contracts that are not in my best interest and do not serve source.

Paul - I would like to know how to get rid of the nanites, since it seems I am fighting again anyway. This is one army you just can't resign from, or else I am slipping in vibration again. I keep trying to quit.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/16/16 09:22:16AM
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Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

REVEAL:

Okay, we usually leave this up for 7 days and then reveal. Even though only 2 people participated, it's been up for 9 days, so I will do the reveal now. 

The mystery man is Fyodor Dostoyevsky, a famous Russian author who lived from 1821-1881. He was a quiet revolutionary and spent time doing hard labor in Siberia for his belief that Russian Orthodox Christianity was the solution to all social problems, not political systems. 

His list of famous writings is long and he is my favorite author of all time. Some of his better known works include Crime and Punishment, The Idiot, and The Brothers Karamazov. There are many web pages about him. Here is a very thorough link for anyone interested in learning more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky

Thanks to the two of you who did participate. I still have hope that we can revive this group.

Cheshire Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/15/16 02:14:53PM
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Increased Emphatic Sensitivities


Empath

I think the reason I find myself fighting the Ar*hons again after quitting is that I cannot maintain a high enough vibration to evade them. Depression will do that to you, and it can also cause severe insomnia, though sleeping too much is more common. I am not fighting them very often these days, so am hopeful that is over with. I am working hard at better controlling my thoughts to raise my vibration and also help alleviate the depression. I also hope we are on the more positive timeline now, and I feel like we'll find out for sure very soon.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/15/16 02:04:26PM
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Increased Emphatic Sensitivities


Empath

CatWhisperer -

I am medicating too, since my blood pressure med is a seizure med also and very sedating. I moved the dosage so I take 2/3 of it at night and still only get 4 hrs. of sleep. The strange thing is I do not feel feel sleep deprived. On the contrary, I have more energy, and have started taking outdoor walks again for the first time in 15 years! I would think I was becoming bipolar, but I do not have any of the other symptoms, just plain old depression secondary to my Lyme Disease, and I am considered much too old to develop Bipolar Disorder now.

Paul-

I could get really paranoid and go with the theory that the deep state elite government, having failed at starting many epidemics, and being behind in getting a race war started, and knowing the real ETs will not allow an all out nuclear war, are going to their last ditch plan to get their global police state by making these noises and other signs that appear to be signaling the end times or something out of science fiction, then using a staged alien invasion to make us give up our last freedoms to be saved from the "aliens". They've mentioned this several times in speeches, going all the way back to the Regan administration.

I was trying to use bold for one of you and italics for the other, but it messed up. My computer does not seem to like this forum much, which reminds me that the other night, I got up at 2 am and the smoke alarm suddenly beeped 3 times. I went over to look at it and my husband's cell phone battery started blinking as if it was charging. His cell phone did not work the whole next day. He took it in he following day to get a new battery, but nothing was wrong. Lately, I get "no Internet connection" when trying to log on, so my husband comes over and tries and it comes right up for him. So, electronics acting weird, yes!

I have also felt the 6th extinction may be due to a coronal mass ejection. I strongly feel it will be a natural cause, not something we do.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/15/16 01:19:12PM
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Increased Emphatic Sensitivities


Empath

dproper - yes, that is what I meant when I referred to what some of us are fighting at night on the astral plane. While we are reading your previous posts, you can see our previous posts about being light warriors rather than light workers. From what you said here, I am guessing you may be one also.

paul - I agree it could be CERN also. Did you see that disgusting ceremony the elite performed there recently?  However, whatever I heard did not come from the ground at all. It definitely was coming from the entire sky.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/15/16 12:02:43PM
1,185 posts

Increased Emphatic Sensitivities


Empath

That is exactly what I thought when I heard it, ie. the trumpets from Revelation. A lot of what is in the Bible is worthwhile IMO, it's just been horribly misinterpreted by those who claim to interpret it literally, but in fact, pick and choose and ignore a great deal. They overlook an obvious problem with the part about "Let US create man in OUR image", "there were giants in the earth in those days", the part about the "gods from the sky" mating with earth women and producing offspring (who now may rule us as the 13 "blue blood" families) and a lot more. I trust the Nag Hamadi and other Gnostic writings more than other religious books, since the church didn't get it's hands on it before it went public, and what it says fits the narrative and physical evidence all over the planet better.

On the other hand, some scientists are saying a magnetic pole switcheroo could maybe cause this sort of noise, and we do have one going on.

Some say it's the sound of one of the HAARPs being used for weather modification or more nefarious purposes.

Still, if it's a simple materialistic explanation, why was I all alone in the street? This noise was loud enough to wake the dead.

It also gave me a feeling of anticipation, and a message that it will sound again, and at that time the veil will lift and what we've been doing at night (Paul, CBX, Phoenix and I, among others) will be seen by all. People's minds will be blown. Of course, my ability to read has been off lately, so I could be all wrong.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/15/16 07:17:47AM
1,185 posts

Increased Emphatic Sensitivities


Empath

I have noticed that I no longer attract dark people and in fact, seem to repel them, which is just fine with me, since I am totally unable to play social games now....simply cannot force myself. I am sorry, Paul, that you have to work in such an environment, not to mention your long commute.

I have too much nervous energy lately, and wake up at 4 or 5 am shaking with an overly wired feeling, unable to go back to sleep. I must exercise every day to work it off, even when I don't feel well enough to do so. I am averaging only about 4 hrs. of broken sleep per night and hope this will end soon, since it is dangerous to sleep that little.

My ears also ring a lot more, but not all the time. I notice the outdoor scenery looks like CGI to me now....that's the only way I can describe it. It seems sharper and unnaturally clear. The beauty of nature is even more touching than before and causes surges of joy.

The sad part of the changes is that I seem to be losing my abilities, not gaining more of them. Maybe lack of sleep is a cause, or maybe my shielding is too strong, I don't know. This is upsetting to say the least.

The most dramatic change is that I was awakened and drawn out into the street one night at 2:30 am some months ago, to hear the whole sky filled with the noise of trumpets. It went on for about 10-15 minutes. I was the only one in the street and it was LOUD, so it could not have been meant for everyone, or the whole neighborhood would have been out there. I have a guess what it may be, but am not sure, since my intuition is so low functioning lately. My husband thinks it was just a jet plane, but how did it cover the whole sky for that long? Anyone got any ideas what it may have been? 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/15/16 07:03:13AM
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Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Hi Paul and Renee,

This has been up for 8 days. We usually do the reveal after one week. I am not sure if I should do the reveal now, or wait and give more people a chance to find out that it exists. We used to have about 10 people participate in each one, sometimes more.

Thanks to the two of you who have participated. What do the two of you think.....should I leave it as a mystery for awhile, or reveal as usual?

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/14/16 01:06:30PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Hi Paul,

I am not getting notifications when people post on here, so forgive me if it takes awhile for me to get back to you.

On the military picture you are right on target. It is associated with something else he was also forced to do.....

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/13/16 06:53:08AM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Paul,

Yes to the writing and very bookish and brainy. You're on the right track. :-)

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/13/16 06:51:47AM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Hi renee,

You got the compassionate and caring, highly intelligent and a bit revolutionary for his time! Very good. :-)

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/12/16 01:12:48PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Two of these are a drawing and a painting, plus two photos. I'm laying it all out here at once, so you can pick up the maximum possible. 

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/12/16 01:09:04PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Here is a 3rd photo of him when younger that may help PsyDev433.jpg

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/12/16 11:36:45AM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Hi Paul,

   He's not a scientist, but you were exactly right on everything else you said. :-)

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 01:06:56PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

To follow this picture experiment and be notified when there are new posts, please click on the large circle with 4 tiny arms inside it, in the upper right corner of the group home page.

I think we'd have had more participation in Paul's recent picture if we'd all known that. I hope so!

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 12:58:16PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Experiment NF001


Psychic and Paranormal

More FYI: To follow discussions in this group and get emailed when there are new replies, click on the large circle in the upper right corner of the group home page, next to the WiFi icon.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 12:57:23PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Experiment NF001


Psychic and Paranormal

Paul,

Nevermind my previous question. :-)

I finally figured out by trial and error where the new discussion button is, etc.

For others like me who are not too computer literate and who don't know either, FYI:

It's the large plus sign in upper right near the WiFi icon on the group home page. If you mouse over it you'll see "add discussion".

It also took awhile to figure out how to get the picture in there....it's not like the old forum. Once you're into "add discussion", it's the rectangle with triangle edges and an arrow just to the left of the smiley face. Click on it, choose your size, (I chose a medium size for my picture), click choose image to insert on the far right, then click on the image you saved to your computer to insert. 

The first picture is up now and I hope people will participate.

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 12:49:01PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Development #43


Psychic and Paranormal

Here is your first picture of this man. I hope he is not too obvious.....

PsyDev 43.jpg


updated by @cheshire-cat: 07/03/17 11:24:17AM
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 12:43:04PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Experiment NF001


Psychic and Paranormal

Paul,

I have someone ready to post for our next picture reading, but cannot figure out how to post my first picture. I do not see "start new discussion" anywhere on the lead group page. Can you PM or email me and tell me where to find it?

Thanks,

C. Cat

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 12:14:49PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Experiment NF001


Psychic and Paranormal

P.S. I did NOT get an email informing me of your reveal. I wonder if anyone else did?

I do get emails about threads in the main forum, but not here. Maybe another bug to report?

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
10/07/16 12:13:39PM
1,185 posts

Psychic Experiment NF001


Psychic and Paranormal

Thank you Paul! Such an interesting and courageous woman. I had not heard of her, and that is too bad. She should be taught about in schools. 

I was glad to see I had a direct hit with tuberculosis too, not just generally picking up on the medical field. That encourages me to keep working at these.

I'd like to do one, but have nobody in mind currently. I will start thinking about it, and meanwhile, maybe someone else will come forward. 

Bless you for starting these up again,

C. Cat

 
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