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karma
@karma
12/28/15 01:29:32AM
159 posts

Autism spectrum disorders and empathy connection?


Empath

Hey Lotusfly

I gave a big sheepish grin reading your reply (the first paragraph) Yes, or No rather :P I am not convinced but, after my `lecture` I always fear I am sounding arrogant so try to leave a means to express I am open to suggestion - I do not know everything and would hate to be perceived as if I thought I did.

My own belief is the universe itself is mental and emotional , it quite literally thought itself into existence, the fantastic and amazing so great it could never be truly explained as to how - not by me anyhow :) - the planets and stars are the neurons and transmitters of vibration and magnetism, our brains are a tiny fragment in comparison yet capable of so much in creating from thought....

I believe we have higher selves also that we are disconnected from while in physical form and, the more we spiritually evolve, the more we are reconnecting back to what and who we really are... I believe any form of mental revelation, esp the likes of empathy is our brains synchronizing shifts in the universe which we were predestined to do so prior incarnation - our brains have been so mashed, conditioned and lost within the physical world hence the `mental torments` in readjusting - That said I also believe there is a deliberate means to keep us from evolving (will save that for another time lol)

Will write another response below this one because I will make this too long a reply and its kind of a contingent (I am awful for `that`

karma
@karma
12/27/15 05:34:07AM
159 posts

Autism spectrum disorders and empathy connection?


Empath

I was medicated the potent brain drug Venlafaxine for eleven years (wont go into the hell it caused) I will give you a little rant (directed at science and the medical profession on the whole) bear with me though as I will quit ranting and make a point :)

Since having come off the brutal narcotic I have researched norepinephrine, serotonin and dopamine to a point of lunacy (pun indeed intended!!!) I have gone the scientific route itself (because you cannot fight it unless you do) and obtained my Psychology diploma (I spent the entire time arguing the science out of Psychology, esp abnormal psychology - In all fairness Psychology is not science Psychiatry on the other hand......)

There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance, science cannot balance any chemical within the brain nor body, all science can do is disrupt the chemicals by enhancing and depleting, this is as far from helping and healing than it can get, hence the influx of suicidal tendencies and, psychotic outbreaks whilst on these drugs, to which science so easily can place blame on the individual and, state as to why they were medicated in the first place - incidently there is more serotonin in the gut than the brain (connecting the gut instinct is interesting and amazing but a long explanation) this is why `depressives` are (when medicated) struck with severe digestive problems as well as severe mental and emotional despair....

Emotions are not scientific, the brain is physical as are the chemicals, yet the mind and what the chemicals do are not, science has decided it is all one and the same, yet simplistically, what will anger one individual may make anther laugh, what will upset one individual will have another not even take note etc.... depression or any other diagnosed `disorder` is no different, no feeling of sadness, hypersomnia, erratic thought, impulsive behaviour is the same and cannot be disrupted nor targeted to fix by synthetic means.... Of course certain foods will enhance moods, the rule of thumb will always be, what you put into your system will determine health - science again is not the discoverer of such a notion it is common sense.

Autistic individuals (scientifically diagnosed as such) lack one particular trait that is for sure..... Empathy on a commercial note,,,, Empathy is more than feeling or understanding pain, it is absorbing energy and I believe autistic individuals are indeed very sensitive and intellectual on a whole different level. This does not make them unsavoury but, it does well to note they are oblivious to it and at times in a very sweet natured manner... Its if they dont understand pain or despair as opposed to not caring. For all we know this could be a means of enlightenment a purity just as a child does not understand pain.....

There are many folks diagnosed with such a condition but, loosely. If it cannot be explained then science will label it as if to say it can be. I will add the connection to the MMR jab and autism here too.

I know today people are diagnosed with so many emotional and mental disorders (and pharma is making billions in promoting, scaremongering and treating, never curing - there is nothing to cure!), being different, thinking, feeling and behaving different is not a disorder, that said being diagnosed is not a bad thing (so long as you are not drugged for it) It is in effect good to know you are on a path of enlightenment- we are moving through Aquarius the shift in the universe is effecting the more enlightened and sadly the lesser enlightened are fighting it with earthly conditioned lunacy - Someone is unhappy, angry, overwhelmed.... They must be crazy, abnormal, stupid.... No!

ADHD, SAD, GAD, Depression, Anxiety are moments of spiritual conflict, confusion and/or enlightenment they are not medical conditions - they are emotional and deserve recognition to ever gain clarity.

Those born brain damaged or suffer a set back in mental growth once born (the more severe) have so many explanations that science will dismiss or face persecution - truth is lack of oxygen in the womb or during birth, mother being medicated during pregnancy, or Father even at time of conception has abnormal sperm, vaccinations......

I could go on for hours.....

Empathy though, it is something we all have (although many too afraid to expand upon fearing it and subconciously blocking) I agree its an unlocking of a part of the brain, Toxins maybe? Its a wise enough theory after all, a lot of toxicity can come along with the discovery, once died down and understood for what it is the toxicity depletes?....

karma
@karma
12/27/15 04:25:12AM
159 posts

Difficulties moving on from marriage problems stunting my spiritual growth


Empath

Hey Gem

I have discovered the last few months, despite all being one and the same life force within the universe (all being connected so to speak) we are all to experience an individual route to spiritual understanding, there are so many versions and routes to spiritual enlightenment - Its your path and only what feels right for you is yours, one thing I do know, the more you learn, the more there is to learn

I have been overwhelmed with the amount of healing routes and advice, I think too much input is a big set back.... the ancient wisdoms (regardless of origin) will always say healing and growth comes from within - today so many routes are merged together as `new age` - in truth (at least in my truth) there is only one route and that is the one that works for you individually

.... I believe stones work (in the situation that the stone need be used) I believe meditation works - in the situation that meditation need be used, as does yoga, reiki, aromatherapy ect - All together? I am not so sure, too much of anything runs the risk of it all just being `too much`.

I think we all try and merge so many routes of healing in a desperation to quick fix (I am terrible for it) but, we are trying too much all the time and actually hindering ourselves, the slower the approach and trying out different routes rather than merging them may benefit?

The situation with your husband I feel for you truly, you obviously love him and are doing what you can do to save your marriage and life aint so black and white as many complications are within his past and present - Although hon, (and I mean this in the nicest possible way) his actions, addiction that has left you very low should not be excused by his past.... otherwise he can do whatever he wants on a continuum and there will always be an excuse to make it acceptable.

I was raised in a brutal household, mentally, emotionally and physically, it has indeed had an impact on my life but, in no way can I blame my mistakes made by me nor my selfish behaviours upon it... These words and deeds were always me!

There are so many ways of looking at it, even to a point of maybe what you are going through is part of your spiritual growth? dealing and coping, the action/reaction.. the choices you make upon it all? - That`s only if you look at it from that perspective.

Not having a life and/or spiritual growth manual is excruciating. I can only speak from my own perspective and experiences so I fully respect you may read and say `No, you have it all wrong`. :)

Everyone deserves happiness, you are going through such a tough time. I do think (again from my experience) that you may be overwhelming yourself with routes of a quick fix as you ask is there anything you are not already doing..... That is not to say I am right though.... Wish I could be of more help, am here to chat though if need be :)

karma
@karma
12/12/15 03:11:03AM
159 posts

I Can't Turn This Person Off...


Empath

Wow! Even the husband is attacking somewhat. You have every right to resent his silly talk. You were a business associate, nothing more.

I wonder if she has done this to other associates or just honed in on you? (most probable the latter, considering his business deals would have been affected each time) Either way the husband can identify this as atypical and unwarranted behaviour. Having taken a step back and accessed what you must have done wrong I hope you can see that you did absolutely nothing wrong - Being a nice and friendly person was your downfall that`s the most unfair part :)

Its sad, this lady needs something/someone to assist with her obsessional and neurotic behaviours, I know my lad needed whatever `that` someone/something concerning his behaviours too..... But, that is the physical side, We though (empaths as a whole) are victims because we are targets of their non physical negative energy, it hones in on us and if we dont know how to protect ourselves we suffer considerably.... I do not know our lives purpose but, I do know it is not to suffer other people.

The complex part is the behaviours are visible - The mental connection is not, so the mental and emotional torment we are subjected to is not really recognized - We become viewed as the ones with the `problem` - Having a level head is paramount!

You said about narcissistic traits.... Hell yes, crying will be used if needed to accomplish a response. When all else fails, `Look how you made `ME` feel`. The narcissist ego knows no boundaries....

You should have never been put in this position and I find myself admiring you for having put your foot down so boldly, inwardly and outwardly.... Your space is yours and you are doing everything right to ensure that :)

karma
@karma
12/08/15 02:55:07AM
159 posts

I Can't Turn This Person Off...


Empath

I recognize the waking up with a feeling of dread - for me its like something forcing me to stay connected. I also identify with the nervous negative energy - You worry about hurting her feelings esp when she is clearly unstable... My situation was with a lad with learning disabilities so I hear you. Try your best not to feel guilty (easier said than done) you are not being mean, you are merely defending yourself from a mental attack - had she have been physical it would be recognized but, mental and emotional pain scars deeper.... you are, in effect under attack

- This lady has zoned in on you and where she has so much emotional distress and `trauma` you can only do what is right for you, that being taking care of number one.

I felt awful turning my back, saying things about the lad who projected himself onto/into me.... I eventually ran like hell and tried every possible technique to rid him - I dread to think what would have happened if I had not.

I cant say I know exactly what you are going through, the business situation especially.

You say her husband talks about a physical illness, he knows her better than anyone and cannot be deluded to her being a needy and an extremely unhappy individual (and scarily obsessive), maybe he actually wants you to be friends? - If this is the case, he is very wrong, just seems odd he hasnt really done anything here especially when a business project could fail because of it.

You need to do all you can to protect yourself, I am no expert, I am still trying to come to terms with the what I have been through the last several months, and trying to clear my space too. I (like Umar) cut cords, from everything that associated us - even down to his place of residence, his families house also, his day centre, my former coworkers etc..... its waning but, still not shaken completely so I know I have to try everything.

I wish you the best of luck

karma
@karma
12/07/15 02:19:37AM
159 posts

In a slump


Empath

I have this scenario often :)

Since discovering I pick up peoples energies I have become inclined to relate it to that, being alone and away from people is therapeutic for me lol

Depression is too much a believed cause of everything we do these days (and big rich pHARMa love that) You do not sound depressed hon, like you said you do not feel sad - you sound like your body and mind are saying it just cant be bothered right now (are you around anyone or with contact of anyone meloncholoy?)

Getting stuck in a mind set for too long of doing nothing is not healthy either....

What do you do? It is easy to say `motivate yourself` but, motivation becomes the pressure......

I can only speak for myself, My motivation only comes from what I will enjoy.... I do not enjoy writing shopping lists, getting up and clearing up etc.

What do you enjoy? even if you cant be bothered with it right now... You could try to focus on what you like doing, listening to, watching etc.... It is not so much a cure all but, a focus that may nudge your mind set? I wish you the best of luck :)

karma
@karma
12/07/15 01:53:48AM
159 posts

Energy punch


Empath

I have not tried it myself but, do find martial arts as beautiful concerning ancient wisdom of energy flow, I love the Japanese, Chinese and Korean stories with Chi Masters being as light as feathers with amazing physical skills and mind over matter adages

I have thought about Tai Chi because when I meditate I strongly feel chi within my hands and believe I should learn about utilizing it somehow but, nothing like this (classes) exist in my town nor neighbouring towns either. I love reading about it all and you have nudged me to see what I can find out on you tube about maybe practicing some techniques :)

What do you do, or how do you make the energy flow? do you visualize it? would be really interested to know :)

karma
@karma
12/06/15 11:55:43PM
159 posts

Picking Up Others Depression


Empath

Umar, This is not my post of course but, I am going to try your method for myself when needed - I find visualization works for me best and I had not thought of this despite having done a similar visualization technique to remove anxiety a few months ago.

karma
@karma
12/06/15 01:55:42AM
159 posts



The route to the fifth world is what intrigues me most - we are (the most of us here) in 4D struggling to understand the shift and balance it to move forward.

The Hopi Indians call it the fifth world, The Mayans called it the end of one age entering another (from Pisces into Aquarius) Christianity (albeit warped and self absorbed to them only) call it The Rapture....

Its definitely happening now, we are moving forward, Its a beautiful notion just so darn hard at times - brilliant article - being reminded that we are all one consciousness and together in such a hard time gives me a little more strength to get through :)

karma
@karma
12/06/15 01:42:29AM
159 posts



Fantastic!!!

Better still the changing `Disorder` to `Difference` - I am not a fan of Medical Science (a long story as to why) and I hate how every emotion and difference is considered dysfunctional and /or a disorder regardless of the obviousness in cause and effect

Anyhow, love the article - I truly believe that we are spiritually evolving as a race and that so many of us going through emotional turmoil (as medical science would have you believe is an age of mental illness) are in fact awakening to our true selves and potentials as emotional beings.

Just looking at the new members coming here (including myself) we are seeking out likewise people because we innately know we are not mentally ill but, something more. So sad people are turning to Drs for help when all they need is freedom of their minds not brain altering drugs (I was on them for 11 years)

I have so much to say regarding the intent to prevent the human race evolving but, do not believe this is the right place to do so - Again love the article :)


updated by @karma: 04/15/17 11:53:15PM
karma
@karma
12/06/15 12:57:45AM
159 posts

Picking Up Others Depression


Empath

I cant say I know any perfected method but, you could try visualizing cutting a cord between you both (Its the only thing that works best for me at the moment as I am finding meditation extremely difficult)

The cord merely the emotional link, not cutting yourself off from her completely (maybe visualize the cord as her depression). I am sure someone else will come by with better advice though, good luck :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 04:47:16AM
159 posts

Dating Websites


Empath

Sorry to hear of the loss of your husband.

You are wise, have the intuition, empathic link and already know what is right for you, My friends not so much :)

Its a pity, so many time wasters out there, It makes no sense why guys join up, answer lots of questions and then back off when approached.

I wish you all the luck, esp with the empath site, it will provide you with likewise potentials, whats more is, like you he wont care about distance :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 04:25:06AM
159 posts

new to the word "empath"


Empath

Hi, so sorry such a late response.

I have no advice to give about using the gift of empathy as I am on that path myself :) Although I find sharing stories here provides other ways of looking at things and offers advice even without the intent (just being heard helps :)

It seems a pity no one else has come by to say hi, if you havent left already? I am happy to hear more about you and your interests - I love anything spiritual :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 03:31:09AM
159 posts

Dating Websites


Empath

I have not joined any sites but, I have friends who have, Plenty Of Fish being one of them.

They havent had much luck on them as a lot of people (both male and female) are not looking for serious relationships, I think like you say, those who are, dont really get recognized or are just not `someones type` - However wrong it sounds people do go for looks and online dating pushes a means to look at a photo before reading a little `this is me`.... you can never get to know someone until actually with them - not even months of writing to each other or phone calls can determine a person for who they really are

Remember too. photos and what people say online etc can be a far truth from who they are - I personally believe the sites you would have to pay for would be more likely to have serious relationship potentials, its all too easy for time wasters to join a free site.

An Empath dating site sounds great though, what a fantastic idea :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 03:06:44AM
159 posts

A word of advice to empaths


Empath

I grasp what you are saying - We are definitely here to express ourselves if others can benefit but, to push the issue puts peoples backs up and we end up feeling we have failed - That is not to say I am perfect lol, I do try and explain and or express things a little too much - not great at it either :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 02:50:44AM
159 posts

Trouble at work /advice please


Empath

I wrote a long reply and for some reason my laptop froze on me.... :(

You poor thing, I cannot say I know exactly what you are going through but, yes I identify the work situation as I am in it right now, coincidently I posted only a short time ago elsewhere here about this.

I was hit like an empathic ton of bricks at work a few months ago, ran from my work straight to another job because I was desperately ill mentally and emotionally, by rights I should have taken a huuuuuge time out, taken sick leave til found another job, but, pressure (oh that horrible pressure!) from people to pay bills and rent had me zoom to anything that came up.

I am working manual kitchen labour which in itself does my mental state no good as there is no stimulation - the biggest issue is the people - I find it hard to connect and I am indeed viewed as an odd ball, hard to talk to and someone with obvious `issues`..... People are uncomfortable around me.....

Therefore I feel uncomfortable and that makes me act and behave worse, I am unable to express myself and I feel lower than low. The thought I have recognized the problem should be enough but, it is not so black and white to alter myself for the purpose of `fitting in` - I am, I believe (without arrogance) a world apart from everyone.

I am just glad that you have come here and not rushed to the DR who would of course ply you with brain altering drugs.... Self medicating, I will not lecture you on, I have no rights to do so, but, please, please look after yourself!

You need a time out, rushing from one job to another is a pattern that may result in you feeling like you have failed each time? You havent!!!!

You are sensitive and emotional, that is a very good thing, regardless of it not seeming that way at the present... You have experienced meaness first hand, imagine if we all were that way.... the sensitive and emotional are needed in todays world, it is us who make it a better place (as empaths we carry all the worlds problems to keep a balance - Its not so much a burden - I am learning its a gift we need learn to channel - That said, Its a hell journey and I have no actual answers for you as an individual, Dang! I have no answers for myself much of the time.

You are not alone hon... easy words I know, we feel alone and that itself will consume a large percentage of our thoughts, emotions and energy..... In other words `our lives`. If you want to chat, message me (you will have to accept my friend request as private messages cannot be sent otherwise)

Work takes up a lot of your life, feeling the way you do makes sense and you need to unload to someone, somewhere... :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 01:39:55AM
159 posts

Anyone else identify?


Empath

Not at all preachy lol, I appreciate the having listened to me and the having responded more than words can express :)

karma
@karma
12/05/15 01:28:30AM
159 posts

Experience with Dissociative Identity Disorder/Multiple Personalities or acquired pain?


Empath

I wish I could give Iots of advice on where to start grounding and healing.

I am like you with much to figure out :)

The only thing I do have is the cutting of emotional ties (and like you I even wondered if I wanted to cut these ties - After all it made me realize I had a spiritual connection I wont lie, I like knowing I have a `gift` of some kind and the fascination of it all too - However, when I recognized I was becoming him more and more, there was an overwhelming sensation of something forcing me to remain with him - mental conflicts of a desperation to get away but a must to remain was very difficult - looking back I see it as quite a dark and unsettling time, was he empathic too? did his energy need me to feed off of?

From what I am learning, the emotional tie does not identify time nor distance and no matter how far removed you are the connection has been made (although if reconnect in person or even thought too much, it will take on a life of its own anyway - the thought part is probably the stronger tie as emotions are linked like an iron chain - esp if this person has attached them self to you).

Its almost like when people lose loved ones the emotional turmoil may lessen somewhat but, its mere adaption to situation, the loss and emotion is always there esp around special days and moments - Those who seek spiritual / psychic assistance regarding lost loved ones are the ones who will remain in that state of emotional trauma because they cannot cut the tie (its all very sad and even understandable but, letting go truly is the wisest thing to do - even the non empath is an emotional being and the guilt they feel when letting go is too overwhelming, they are stuck.... It is all pretty complex. So for the empath it is indeed furthermore traumatic and dangerous to hold on to anything - Maybe you have adapted to being connected to this person and feel it has become a part of you? It maybe why you do not really want to let go, maybe this persons energy is weaker than it wants to be - strong enough though having been connected for so long but, thankfully not strong enough to have driven you insane.

I still have negativities around me and I know these are not mine, I get a surge of anxiety and thoughts of this lad pop into my head, its at these times I know I must remove him for my own sanity.

My attempts to cut those ties are through meditating and visualizing we are connected by cords of some kind, I cut the cords, not to just him but, to everything that associated us as together, his house, his day centre, his family etc (all these played a big part in our time together)

Being such a strong connection (as yours sounds also) it isnt so easy as to cut and all is over, I am indeed away from him and all of the places that connected us to eachother but, those ties cut are clearly not enough lol.

I can analyse some of the pain and scars that were /are not mine. but, no I havent been successful in mastering a way through it - I am very much an emotional confusion and connecting to other people (on the work front more so) has become difficult - being terrified of making any connection with other people has made me a bit of an odd ball around others - I know this because I feel like one :) I am very much in need of grounding and becoming just me but, am so confused and weak mentally when in society - so many offers of advice which I will try but, this can be overwhelming also - not knocking the advice, I appreciate it, I need to ground myself first or I will be overdoing too many healing techniques that may be a strain?

karma
@karma
12/03/15 02:41:40AM
159 posts

Want to introduce myself.


Empath

Not sure

For me it is different, I have been alone most of my life due to being taken into care at 8 months with siblings, removed from siblings aged 5 - A long painful story til 14 then different families til 16

I have met up with siblings since, we are all different and none express any similarities - I do not know and have not met my birth parents but, have no desire to - were they empaths I doubt I and siblings would have been removed and consent given to separate so readily.

My daughter does have psychic abilities, I do not posses these myself she is very sensitive (like me) also with a very strong outgoing personality - I am not like this these days.

I wish I knew what I would be like had I grown up with my siblings (we all look alike which is odd lol) I wonder if I would have rubbed off on them had we all been together? A little nature and nurture determining a different outcome?

I am very much like you and sensitive to animal pain, people suffering and more.

My passion for history lies with connecting the dots of all ancient cultures that do indeed coincide, legends of Hopi being the same as pagan (as are many Christian also.....)

The fact all cultures have a reptile Deity both good and bad... I could go on (I love it) :)

karma
@karma
12/03/15 02:17:36AM
159 posts

Has Anyone Else Noticed This?


Empath

I did notice this.

When I first posted a few weeks ago I noted about 20 people had read my post yet no one had came to respond - I was very low so when finally I was responded to I felt a lot better - Thank You Karen :)

I make a point already to seek out posts that have not been responded to

I do have to add, for so many empaths to bypass someones plea for advice confuses me somewhat - even with no advice to give at least say Hi - I sound so angry lol, I am not. I am merely expressing we should pop by to let people know someone has acknowleged them

karma
@karma
12/02/15 04:58:13AM
159 posts



Thats pretty profound :)

Sounds like you were telling yourself you are more than comfortable in being yourself - That you are possibly tired of what this world/society expects of you and only what you know is right for you is right?

Or maybe that you are in touch with your masculine and feminine sides but, predominantly feminine?

Do you have issues with building relationships with females? I know I used to prefer males as a child

karma
@karma
12/02/15 04:34:08AM
159 posts

Anyone else identify?


Empath

I at times feel inspired to babble on lol.... I know so much goes over others heads (not because they are not intelligent but, that they are so conditioned into believing only one perspective on so many things) For example `Who said life was ever fair?` I despise such expressions.... Life should be fair, man made greed and power and control obsessions took fairness away - Life itself is fair, we were all born to be a thinking/feeling someone.....

I have to quieten my rants and babbles on religion, money, education, government, life in general, fame, media brainwashing etc because I know people dont care about any of it (which worries me because even though no one sees affecting their lives directly it actually does) The world around us is a system of robots without empathy, not even sympathy for the lesser priviliged. This is because it is taught from an early age, the only way forward in life is to earn yourself respect by working for others and sh~~ing on others to do so. The more money you make the more successful a person you are, the more respected you are.... I hate it!! I could go on but wont.

I find I am becoming more and more despising of human behaviour and actions and dont really think I want to switch this off?

I know my meloncholy persona is doing me no good right now but, how to enjoy life when everything about is so wrong?

I am being so somber, forgive me, I am actually fine lol.... this is just the crap I have going through my head daily :)

karma
@karma
12/02/15 04:07:04AM
159 posts

Anyone else identify?


Empath

`That` I do relate to - getting away from society...... work is the hardest association of all

I rushed straight into a new job in fear of income loss, and after all my last job put me through....

I find it hard to socialize and am becoming more and more socially awkward I truly wish for a time out and away from people/society.

karma
@karma
12/02/15 04:01:11AM
159 posts

Experience with Dissociative Identity Disorder/Multiple Personalities or acquired pain?


Empath

Sounds as if you have never cut the emotional connection to the individual or as Karen says this is more an energy of spirit?

I am no expert, all I know is within my own experience I almost became the person I connected with and the negativity became toxic and extremely dangerous for me, I am still having to cut ties as it is not so easy to do.

Like I had also, you feel a compulsion to not abandon but, instead help..... believe me this is a drain and the why it is so hard to heal from it all.

The lad I worked with did have multiple personalities, but, not in the sense you speak of. He had learning disabilities and had many different versions of personality but not `created identities`, he never referred to himself as anyone else but himself but, he would alter personality traits often - would switch from happy and sweet to angry and obsessive, from confused and anxious,to aggressive always with a rooted narcissism

I began to become very absorbing to these traits and it was extremely draining and traumatic. Its not the same of course but, I did indeed acquire intense emotional pain - I still feel I have this energy around me at times and like you say it is not mine in origin, I also have the scarring which is mine on top.....

It is true, realising it is not your pain is a start, but, I have noted I am starting a whole new chapter. At present I feel very messy emotionally,not sure where to start grounding myself yet.....

karma
@karma
12/02/15 02:41:43AM
159 posts



Have not done such a physical act however, I felt extremely uncomfortable in my employment surroundings over the last year and began to get very anxious (now know this was not me but, I was absorbing the emotions of the lad I worked with)

During this time though I had an extreme fear of getting through the day around people, I began to believe people thought this or that about me (very obsessive) an urge daily to say `I am liked` and `I am nice` (even though I am I wanted people to see me for it)..... This became a daily affirmation

I was told by many people I was liked and that I was such a nice person - even had people come up to me and say `so and so thinks you are so nice` and `he/she really likes you`......

Admittedly this was down to my extreme insecurities at the given time, It seemed to drain me somewhat though as I think I may have exhausted this ability in a sheer anxious desperation?

Can you exhaust the ability? Or was the anxiety the draining problem?

I think if you believe anything strongly enough and an intent for it to work can truly help (Always use for good though!!!!! lol)

karma
@karma
12/02/15 02:27:56AM
159 posts

Anyone else identify?


Empath

I hear you....

The message of `be yourself` but only so long as it does not affect others... Everything we say and do will affect another in some way or another

Thats my problem though, I dont really know who I am, fear my words will be taken the wrong way regardless of people knowing me will know I have no untoward intent.

I do admire people with confidence and ability to speak their minds in a just manner - When alone, in my head I sound fair and intelligent enough to be understood - verbalising is very difficult.

I am working on learning to accept myself more - I do wish I could just take time out and go somewhere (where???) I have a strong feeling this is what I need right now.... Dont know where to start though

karma
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12/02/15 02:16:50AM
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Thank you Skeletubbie (love the name)

This is how I have become, I am finding it harder and harder to associate with others.

I realise now, I have had this all with me a long time but, did not connect the dots, now I know why I behave the way I do and feel the way I do, I am no longer in a conflict to be `normal` for my own sanity but, I do feel a more sizable urge to remove myself from the everyday world - Just have no idea how?

karma
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12/01/15 12:04:56AM
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And you :)

Would love to up and leave to Texas lol - Why the move? (being nosy is all,)

karma
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11/30/15 04:41:43AM
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Hi Natalie :)

I refer to myself as a mess on continuum am pretty new here too. - I have a very deep connection with animals as I think any empath does - They are the true owners of this planet, they have no greed, ego, hate, attitude...... we could learn so much from their innate respect of this planet and fellow kin.... (could go on and on about how they only kill to eat and to protect etc (will leave it for another time lol) Nice to meet you :)

karma
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11/30/15 04:33:59AM
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Not in any group but, Hi to you both I am in North West Kent :)

karma
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11/30/15 04:31:18AM
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How to protect my suspected empathic 3yr old from my physical pain?


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I think what Trevor suggested sounds amazing - I have no advice other than (which you are going to know anyway) Only use natural elements on your skin nothing synthetically medicated

How is your skin now?

How are you both doing now?

karma
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11/30/15 04:20:09AM
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Bookworm

What a beautiful understanding - You are so right too!

Its true my wanting to help could indeed be a taking away someone else`s potential to help themselves which would of course be enriching and beneficial to them to have done so.

But, as you say the desire never goes away :) and.... I will always fear I turned away at the wrong time (see how annoying I am lol)

My biggest problem is the learning how to turn my intent on helping inward, or even liking myself... I find this extremely difficult because I, in my 41 years have never done so. I have so many realisations on where I am going wrong but, have no clue on changing myself (I have tried but, its a struggle that drains me more)

You have helped though :) - Knowing people understand me somewhat and your having responded means a lot as there are not many people wanting to cover this topic with me verbally, I try and keep a lot of my thoughts and feelings to myself so I do not drain anyone (primarily my daughter and boyfriend) - So Thank You :) xx

karma
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11/30/15 03:56:45AM
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Such a good point raised Saramel.... We help everyone but ourselves and we do it to a point of causing distress to ourselves.

I at present have not gotten a grip on helping myself without causing myself more upset, I wish I had because I am indeed aware of the trauma I am inflicting on myself, My inate personality? I do not know but, I am struggling daily to recover, stand up for myself, voice myself, ground myself and so much more that I need to do.

This site is helping me, A few people here are giving me fantastic guidance I know coming here was what I needed to do :)

karma
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11/30/15 03:50:05AM
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I too can only voice myself to certain and close individuals...

I too find isolation my only way to any form of contentment (which now with a new job is very difficult the hours are long, the environment stressful and I am struggling)

I feel for you. you are in an emotional turmoil, i can touch wood, my virtual in laws (unmarried but in my relationship 13 years) would never interfere with my partners life (they would support him in anything but, have never, to my knowledge judged me outwardly nor have they interfered)

You are picking up the pieces of a toxic past and that has got to be tough on top of all else you as an empath have to contend with - its all too easy for me to say, dont let them get to you, look after number one etc, but, I know it just is not that simple.

You make a lot of sense hon, I know I need enjoy my existence, I want to. Just not sure how or where to start lol - I worry about everything I say and do affecting others and of course this in turn affects me. I am not even sure I know how or where to set boundaries I am a bit of mess lol

I still have not gotten round to doing the meditation either, so overworked at present and shattered every night.... I have a day off coming up (cant wait!!!)

karma
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11/27/15 04:36:45AM
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I have but, I fear I sound a little eccentric lol

I have to go to work now but, will get back to you as soon as can :)

karma
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11/27/15 02:08:39AM
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Thanks Karina.

I do have a problem with boundaries, I worry I am being too harsh if I say no.... I know I need firm up and I recognize (more so since joining this site) that I should have more control over myself as a means to protect myself from negativity....

Am trying to learn how to :) I, like your Grandmother do tend to allow people to be unkind (even make excuses for them.... Well, thats if they are unkind to me, if unkind to loved ones/animals or even injustices of the world, I tend to be more assertive and am ready to fight back) It is definitely a `me` thing.

karma
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11/25/15 01:55:27PM
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I see 14:41 or 14:44, 444, 19;19 5;55 or 3:33/15:55.... seemingly random but, see them all the time

I believe that the universe is like a giant brain itself and sends messages via numbers for us to seek out our own understanding of them... Just wish I could grasp the message

karma
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11/25/15 01:36:55PM
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Oh Wow... Went straight to the link of turning down the volume, visualized the dial and it kept pinging back up....

Will practice this everywhere several times a day :)

karma
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11/25/15 01:24:16PM
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Thanks Fancy Girl

I am very much stuck in a rut, I have pushed so much aside and pretend all is good as most people do,

I have a counsellor, which is odd as she is lovely but, most of our sessions are discussing work (where I discovered I was becoming who I looked after - I of course have not explained any of that we instead talk around my anxiety at that time (which was his) and the stress (which was his) - we have come to agree I have been through a very tough time lol.... she would not respect me as an empath in discovery of course - I would dread the pity look on her face, I think (being this day and age) having a counsellor will help regarding time off work if need be (I have dived straight into another job, which is truly proving to be a mistake, we discussed this, this evening)

We are supposed to talk about the past but, I avoid it without intent although there is common ground concerning the angry younger self, maybe we will look at that some day soon?

I spend most of the session knowing her ideals will work in some cases but, in others are just too far removed from what I have been going through, she my help more with the past than the present?

I will definitely read the links concerning chatter :) Thank You Loads it means a lot :)

karma
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11/25/15 01:08:45PM
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I try lol... :)

I will try harder, Thanks Kit Kat :)

karma
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11/25/15 01:02:55PM
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Thats so true water lily, people only ever seem to see that someone need be more empathic yet disregard empathy itself as a real thing and or if someone is too sensitive to others it is viewed as a weakness or hindrance :(

Me too lol.... I think I am being mean (and worry people think I am mean) when all I am trying to do is voice myself (I blame this on my inability to voice myself - am such a mouse at times)

karma
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11/23/15 11:02:06AM
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Salut!

I am very boring and English lol.... Cant speak another language unfortunately, A very basic french and that`s about it (and I mean very basic lol)

karma
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11/23/15 02:05:32AM
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Thank You Fancy Girl

What you have said makes so much sense and I truly need learn how to judge character because I am indeed a magnet for narcissistic individuals whether long term or fleeting. I need to spot the narcissist from the genuine or at least the potential deliberate energy sucker from the genuine person.

What you have said about childhood hit a raw nerve and I believe I was meant to be jolted `again` by reading them... I was raised in a very psychologically, emotionally and physically brutal household that was not even my own, I ran away on continuum until 14 when I took myself to social services and refused ever to go back.... I recognize the patterns of almost everything I do, even down to the running away today, I need get away somehow like I used to be able to, even if it does not fix the problem by doing so

I meditated recently and my childhood self came forward very angrilly but, I have pushed this aside due to all the other stresses I am dealing with - But, I know deep down this part of me is what I need address today and now - maybe it is why I am where I am today? I just feel overwhelmed by so much and do not know where to start - I am very complex even to myself because the hurt and trauma from childhood I have pretended for 30 plus years did not happen, pushed it aside or have even sympathasized with those who did what they did.... I try and see their side and at times forgive - yet at other times I am so angry.

You say about turning down the chatter.... Any advice on how to do this would be greatly appreciated :)

karma
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11/23/15 01:42:54AM
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Thank You Dice....

I totally identify with at times the difficulty in having an opinion, I always see the both sides, I will often say (and mean) I get what someone is saying yet, that can annoy others too.

I also see life as lessons on continuum(both for myself and others), this of course is a struggle when others do not view it that way, its their way or no way - that can be hard, I will help anyone when asked I would not be able to sleep nor function well if not.

I too respect I can be a drain on others if I allow myself to be, I step back, keep my words, feelings and thoughts to myself at times - Filtering what I say does not come naturally of late, I have found expressing myself extremely difficult since taking on my ex one to ones traits - verbally I am pretty lost.

I need a time out, I need a stress free period and will use all techniques until find the right one...

Thanks Again :)

karma
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11/23/15 01:27:48AM
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BlakPanther.... Coming here and speaking to you and a few others has been a breath of fresh air, I have been wandering aimlessly for a while thinking the world is not right, peoples behaviours, attitudes and words being so wrong, brutal and just downright ugly. I did not believe many people viewed humanity like I did.

My biggest problem is fitting in (I dont really want to, yet I have to as a means to get an income and live.... Which in itself is so wrong, This world was created free yet man has taken (stolen) it and taxed it all, even the natural elements, pay to stay warm, for clean air, pay for land you live on, water bills.....) People say `thats life and or `who says life was fair` etc.... It drives me round the bend - It is not life, and life is only not fair because people govern people, there is no freedom.....

I am already in a new job (in a kitchen of a carvery - Am Vegan).... I am not happy of course the meat everywhere, the smell of it and all the new people I have to pretend I can cope with being around, when all I want is to get away from everyone and everything esp after this last year.

I could sit a write so much here but, will read your threads and respond in accordance :)

Whereabouts are you? I am in South East England

karma
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11/23/15 12:41:06AM
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Am going to order some stones today... Will add Black Jet, Do You want my feedback too? :)

karma
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11/23/15 12:39:14AM
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Thank You so much Gem, I really appreciate it. It means so much because even though people (loved ones) know I have been through a tough time no one really understands what I am talking about lol - I do still feel worn out and confused at times.

I know I need recover before exploring in any way. Look forward to those links Thanks again you`re a star!!

karma
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11/20/15 06:19:14AM
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It sure helps, the last few months I thought I was going crazy (understatement)

Everything I was going through, Anxiety, confusion, stress, anger etc I was literally my one to one, even to the point of inability to express myself verbally. I was extremely exhausted and drained

Thank you, I will try my hardest to look after myself, Gems advice to carry certain stones reasonates and I will be doing this, any other tips would be appreciated :)

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11/20/15 06:12:58AM
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I hear you....

I often say to myself, I want a quiet life, I am here to live not struggle. So true, no instruction manual and such a difficult burden that many see as a gift, as yet, I have helped no one, been to hell and back too many times and I havent grasped the up side so to speak.

Although, I am told I am a lovely person, but this has been a burden when people abuse it.....`too nice` is what my daughter says she gets frustrated with me often because I care too much about everyone and everything esp injustices and/or I will contemplate on why people do the things they do rather than judge them - Although my daughter is a lot more sensitive than she lets on.... She is very strong outwardly but, then so was I at 22 lol..... Where has that side of me gone???

If I could switch it off I would because I know I am burdening myself.... just cant switch it off so I hear you

I am becoming more reclusive the older I get (am only 41) I do not know if this is a subconscious getting away? just happier away from people

karma
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11/20/15 05:41:53AM
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Thank You so much Gem

Yep. that is me, I feel bad even when thinking about what should be said, my care for their emotions outweigh my own, I just dont do hurting others feelings even when it very well maybe a saviour to my own. I also irrationally? believe others will think bad of me if I say anything confrontational even though I know people know me enough to know I would never be confrontational unless pushed into a corner.

I struggle putting myself first at any given time, I have never known how to shield myself and am a little confused in my research because people say dont shield yourself as it blocks and can put a wedge against everyone even loved ones.

I fully respect and identify with a lot pf people here when they say (as you have too) that we have all felt at some point there was something wrong with us, even to a point of feeling crazy or detached from almost everyone.

I have had many narcissists target me throughout my life (yet did not see the pattern until very recently) I have not so much tried to fix them but, indeed been sucked in to caring too much and being too understanding.

I do feel a higher source steps in at some point though (my higher self maybe?) because (after much trauma and exhaustion) I have somehow managed to walk away (unfortunately till now, without having learned a darn thing lol).

I have finally come to note it is a pattern though and a pattern I now MUST learn from because only recently I was actually saying `This lad is killing me` and he truly was - he was a lad with learning disabilities, extremely selfish, negative, and self absorbed... Narcissistic traits, I spent two years with him one on one, the last year and moreso the last few months I was absorbing him excessively I became extremely ill and even very resentful of being around him.... Of course I now have guilt for having felt this way regardless of knowing I was actually him a huge percent of the time

Thank you for the advice, I carry clear quartz with me in my bag but will keep it closer, need to invest in more stones, I have my chakra stones and try to carry my turquoise when need to speak to people because since having began to work with my one to one I spoke of above, I became less able to verbalize myself (he finds it hard to do this) I am hoping I regain the ability since having left him (as I am many scenarios and situations)

Will indeed get a black tourmaline as a need to ward off others negativity as I am desperate for a time out at least lol

Thanks again, you have been a great help, will take your advice with a Lavender, Sweet Almond and Epsom Salt too big hugs xx

 
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