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KitKat
@kitkat
10/19/16 01:21:48PM
25 posts

Dark Siders


Empath

There are what I call jaded Empaths think that speaks for itself; misusing the ability as it is there compassion that is battered down through way to many negative key point in life growth. It is not too dis-similar to how an sociopath works they say a sociopath has no empathy I disagree and latest research is discovering it is there they can feel how another is feeling but do not feel the compassion. I think this is were they get the talent to read people and abuse them. We need to have a distinction between the terms sympathy, empathy, and compassion.

If Empaths can feel another's feelings it does not necessarily mean they have compassion or antipathy this is a choice influenced by their own experience of life the values they hold and how much of an innate level of compassion they had to begin with. I think generally speaking most Empaths grow in the direction of Compassion through the experience of Empathy. The spectrum of empathy strength in humans on a scale from Sociopath through to Empath is perhaps not linear but circular.

KitKat
@kitkat
10/15/16 04:17:37AM
25 posts

Welcome New Web Site Early Birds!


Empath

Thank you for our new home Elise. Much love xx

KitKat
@kitkat
10/15/16 04:16:36AM
25 posts

Lucky in Love?


Empath

Hi I have found myself in the past falling in love with someone getting involved in a relationship only to discover. I was feeling their love for me and mistaking it for my own. Mainly due to the fact they would make the first move or at least make their feelings apparent. The relationships never worked out in the in most often for that reason.

I mentioned to an old and wise Lady once about being an Empath she was very understanding and as she headed of onher way she chuckled and said with that ability you must be good with the ladies! I didn't have chance to say actually I have been wondering why I am not as it is completely the opposite! Attraction and romantic love I can see happening in other couples even before they do themselves but my own personal dealing with this area of life is so confusing.

I am either faced with the problem above though I have mastered this quite well now or I end up having my Empathic and Intuitive abilities completely blinded. I feel our abilities give us a good sense of objectivity in ourselves and in others but for me those skills go right out of the window in the early stages of attraction. It's like most folks feel but for me as an Empath it is times ten! You end up trying to juggle the courting stage of things with suddenly being struck blind.

 I have met a soul mate and know we would be amazing together, whenever we are together and stare happen to meet each others eyes for a long time I feel she is feeling the love I have for her. She has even noted these special moments herself days later saying how amazing our times was together that particular day. The way she is with me has been noticed by others as well even those that say they are not that astute with such things. I know she is an Empath as well even though I don't think she realises it yet. I wonder also if there is the possibility of the opposite happening here, that we can project our love to others so strongly they think these feeling are their love for us when they are not.

 Perhaps I am merely suffering the fear of rejection but the Empath thing makes it harder now I am twise shy when it comes to making the first move. I have met soul mates but sometimes they are souls sisters and brothers not soul lovers.

 I am still pondering whether an Empath is better off in a relationship with another Empath or not the past has shown that hasn't worked but I think neither of us at the time realised we were Empaths, unskilled and battered and bruised from our past.

 Lost and confused and asking for others thoughts on this and being a newly realised transgender women still attracted to women just makes this even more confusing .

Much love and light KitKat xx


updated by @kitkat: 02/25/17 12:32:22AM
KitKat
@kitkat
04/04/15 06:37:09AM
25 posts

Difficult situations that lead to a life changing discovery


Empath

My past was different but recently got back into meditation and have had the same powerful experiences you are having its awesome

KitKat
@kitkat
03/28/15 11:36:41PM
25 posts



Hi mAnomie

I lean to the scientific but have always hand an open mind like yourself in that things will be explained eventually. Where I have grown disenchanted with science recently in not so much the "science" but the attitude of some of it promoters. I don't wish to seem as though I am being critical of religions here either with what I am about to say. For again it is not the religions themselves but the attitudes of a select few that take a dogmatic or extremely zealot approach. Science has now done the same. The attitude is not there are things out there yet to be explained or we have explained this phenomenon yet instead the attitude has become if science hasn't or can't prove it then it doesn't exist.

I have been Empathic since I was a child but only recently became aware of it as a name and definition. I want to just add here what a relief and what an amazing change it is making to the positive. Science failed me to or should I say I failed myself by going its dogmatic crowd. Fortunately, my objective nature never lets me get too one sided with things, I knew I was mis-diagnosed when I had depression and though I sorted out many things through that learning experience I never felt completely whole as I do now realising I am an Empath. So, I could say Western Psychology failed me, or I could say Psychology failed me then.We are all ofus on a learning curve. I have noticed huge changes in Psychology's attitudes and discoveries in recent years...so there is hope, for Science as well. For there are always those in those fields that keep an open mind. Heck, there are like, friend of mine, scientists that are also religious!

It is time for another perspective and I to am just starting to join you on this journey. My approach is this science is vaild and use its concern to quantify as away to prevent self-delusion. You have with a very scientific approach weighed up your experiences over time instead of just believing straight away, and have now concluded there is some valid to you abilities. This was done with scientific investigation just because you cannot explain the parts and the process with science yet means you have to go faith at this point, you can still scientifically observe how your abilities unfold to better understand them and make progress. The more sipirtual aspect of this is to use these abilties for a good purposes and be aware of the dark as you are doing. Be a person of objectivity instead of purely science then you can embrace all potentials. My only wariness is when things not proven are used over things that are fact. To give an example someone who goes to form of healer not fully explained scientifically yet for a physical ailment say cancer and neglects to go for a treatment like chemo that is known to work albeit not 100% of the time, that is a concern. To blindly rush into belief of an ability without observation is also unwise. I have a friend that convinced himself of certain abilites but it was an odds game and the friends around him could see he was wrong more often than not. This person became schizophrenic a few years later. You however have checked out your observations and the changes in those that experience your abilities and have had positive feedback. I have had people comment on my ability to be in situations where one to one or in a group have used my abilities and it has been noticed and commented upon by those present. Good luck in discovering and implementing your new perspective and on honing your abilities. Stay strong through your Bi-polar and I agree invest in your wife. My depresssion caused me to lose my soul mate along with some other surrounding issues. The best approach is not to be flighty or entrenched but fluid of mind in the weighing and measuring, learning and growing.

Love and light mAnomie


updated by @kitkat: 10/18/17 06:00:53PM
KitKat
@kitkat
03/24/15 01:47:01PM
25 posts



I agree the speech goes beyond socialism, right enough, straight to (and don't pardon the pun as it fits) the heart of matters. I think that is why he was so amazing as a silent movie actor and why he's your idol to show feelings in body language and facial expression is powerful method acting one might go so far as to say Empathic if the actor does it well, which he certainly did. I am going to sort out the list of sites and techniques worth looking at that can lead us to feeling more and thinking less. No surprise they are mediations in form but with very key things needed to strengthen the power of the meditation. I did meditation before and felt it had done enough for me as a person but didn't have the will to saty the course and go for the enlightment as they say. The inner Empath in me told me recently "Hey, buddy I still need and actually so do you" LOL. What I have learned recently about some of the meditations I shied away from because of silly beliefs and scepticism, have proven to be awesome and with fast more tangible result. I don't mean to imply fast food spirituality here and I guess what I was doing before and realising I am an Emapth and channeling that energy into the mediations have give them the extra kick. I am opening up more, feeling more and hurting and thinking less its the thinking about the negative that causes it to stick around and drain us.

Check out Book of Storms Empath 101 this is on the surface quite cerebral but lays a good foundation on which to move on with and corellates with meditation. Read up on Chakras and dare I say it not just the wooly stuff but how it is linked to the nervous system and sub-concious mind this will give the mediataions more potency. Learn about Tantra not the media sensationalized stuff but the to reuse the last big word sensation stuff that channels your energy so powerfully your heart is bursting with love and joy for hours if not days and your whole body glow with bliss and its natural with no side effects, though you have to have the love and joy and comapssion for others mixed in otherwise you just bliss out and end up dopy like a stoner though that effect is reversable unlike with the herb. You have full focus the whole time as well. People pick up on ut as well. Suddenly I was hugging or being hugged by associates that had never hugged me before and I was told how much I was loved and like, it was amazing. I will have to remember to ground myself afterwards when I do this meditation as its very intense but wonderful. The energy you may have heard of it is kundalini its the energy of our nervous system focused gentle meditation soon show result there are some sites I visited where they are forcing it too much using muscles, muscles, breathe and mind are key but enough with the power lifting energy shifting guy!!LOL

Check out

aumlove tantra.com

Read up on and check out Isochronic binaral frequencies the frequencies are on you tube.

again a reminder google Book of Storms Empath 101. Check out Tantraic Buddhist meditation they use as in visualise an idol full of symbology (which communicates better with the sub-concious where Empath abilities generate) make this idol (which will be opposite of your male or female energy for balance) very real withyourimagination which is also from the subconcious then sit in the Yab Yum posture and move the the breathe and energy between you with mantras. Bringing in if you are able to smell associationso pick and stick to and associate a particular perfume or incense with your idol, the mantra sound and any chimes or bells if that works for you. Then when you begin to merge with this idol as if it were your soul mate and take on its love and compassion and virtues you eventually in later mediatation begin to merge this visaul into you own being because it already is, you just projected your innerself ooutside to better communicate then popped it back in once you learned how to bond and converse so to speak. I'm at work if I find any more good sites I will let you know. Go for it though the research in itself is rewarding.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/23/15 05:19:59PM
25 posts



Hi Karina

I agree I think you are onto soemthing here, which can be a great way for Empaths to reduce negative influence by focusing on the positive and sharing that positivity out if it lifts others spirits its a win win situation and Empaths will have less negativity to deal with. I have discovered some things that will help I am just leaving work but wil get back to you on this shortly perhaps Thur or Friday when I have my days off. I am an Empath that found ways to deal with the negative and began shutting down the good stuff. Then I saw this film and realised deep down my fear was being myself and so loving towards others it would make them react in not just good ways but negatives and didn't want to cause negative reactions. You can never please everyone but this speech in a film I watched sent shivers of beautiful loving power through me and they are word all people need to feel and live by especially Empaths we are closer to shining and if we do it will make things so much better. Some of us may discover once thetry this approach they still like to be quiet and alone but I think alot of us have gotten use to this think this is what we want when maybe its not. I think this is more likely otherwise why would we be this way? We would soon find ways to shut out or off if we didn't have these caring natures. Here's the link I'll send you some meditation ideas as soon as I can.

Here's the like to the movie speech. I like to listen to the Great Dictactor speech as well...goosebumps!

Enjoy :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_fDhqRk_Ro


updated by @kitkat: 10/20/17 07:19:54PM
KitKat
@kitkat
03/22/15 11:36:48AM
25 posts

How to prepare yourself as an Empath for future romantic relationships.


Empath

Hi Sshh

Thanks many rapid awakenings since I put this topic up. The wall is crumbling a a frightening but accepting this is good for me way. Yes, some of the wall is something in the past but some of it is the intensity of the positive feelings when I have them for someone. I am getting used to each day even as the feelings grow strong and come out just for my work colleagues and friends let alone a life partner. I am sure by then I will have opened up and handle this. The wall mainly that the positive feeling are quite intense. Your heck comment made me laugh, your so right. I am happy to be alone so not to worry I am not pushing myself but now the damn is bursting it is quite a rush (in an awesome way). I have realised from the accidental projecting of all this joy that it has impacted those around me. I have been verbal about it of course but people are sensing it I haven't even spoken to and the feedback I am getting has shown me that even with the wall up and my Empath lows people still had a higher opinion of me than I realised and I am not doing the Empath thing and feeling awkward about the compliments, I'm a little worried I might be coming off as a positive Narcissist temporarily.LOL

I lost sight of the fact we can be platonically intimate in all relationship forms. I have had student at the College I work for as a guard come up and tell me how much they love and they are so glad at the positive changes happening to me. I joked with them and said I must have been such a pain in the Butt with my lows and moans but at least I know why (recently having encountered the whole Empath experience by definition, always like we all have, known something was different) and then apologised. The response was almost verbatim from each encounter with a Student or colleague. They somehow knew something was different and could see I was a carer they knew just telling me to not be over sensitive or to stop running around helping out and wearing myself down would make things worse but could see the positive realities should I get to grips and find a balance. I could sense at the time and more in hindsight they found subtle ways to level me out. It's amazing they didn't have a word for it but new I was an Empath and that we are awesome people and some how knew and respected the side affects. They are even more excited that I am turning this into a positive and opening up more and being more intimate with them!! What you have said has been a great help though. I am finally being me but like you said don't rush and any problems come from working on myself. Thank you soo much Xx

KitKat
@kitkat
03/21/15 10:38:27AM
25 posts

Hello!


Empath

Welcome and well done on your early realisation and positive actions since.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/21/15 09:01:03AM
25 posts

How Do You Project and Draw?


Empath

I absolutely agree. On that note to be responsible if there is such a time I am low I will withdraw either empathically or in person anyway be it my negs or sombody elses. Still have to watch the distance projection but I think a natural sheilding will occur at least for me in that situation. Good luck with your discoveries ScottI think we can rest assured you approach this with the right attitude. If there is any advice you could offer friend me. I am more interested in knowing than using to prevent my doing so unwittingly, though intentions as you say covers that. I wonder if it is possible to channel out the negative stuff we get without sending it in the wrong direction, as an alternative to shielding I did the sheilding without realising and it can end up rusting shut and it has not been easy prying it open again. Shutting myself off as harmed not just myself but others that have wanted to connect with me as well and could not.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/21/15 08:44:37AM
25 posts

How Do You Project and Draw?


Empath

It deepens what you project I and opening up so much people whom have already told me I am well liked for being just objective an openminded appreciate that and feel inspired. This was done with words every fibre in my body vibrates with this now. I am sure you don't mean a direct specific projection I think people that shine with joy and love Empath or no should shine, it encourage others to open up as well if done in gentle flow. I used to be an introvert and at times disliked charismatic people for never giving up the space to others. Then I realised they are Narciccists the trully Charismatic care for others and I certainly wouldn't tell those people to tone it down and not force the happiness and energy on others, playing it small to make others comfortable isn't enlightened but of course precise intrusions are wrong without consent but if Empaths have this ability it needs controlled research otherwise we could be throwing away a positive stage in our evolution just because of the negative which is always there as a potentiality anyway in anything happening, thought or idea.

The immediate concern which I am sure Marty has thought is that we all need make sure we are not projecting negatives whilst unaware and how to prevent this when feeling negative.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/21/15 12:56:49AM
25 posts

How Do You Project and Draw?


Empath

Hi Scott and Emmy

I am new to the definition of what I am but have been fumbling along (fortunatley in the right direction) to being a skilled Empath. Since shall I call it the recent confirmation. I have taken a no sheild stance as I have probably become to good at that. Instead I have opened up and beyond the surface charisma which will of course affect people generally I have noticed what must be a projection beyond that. People whom were already open with me opened up more but where I think it went into the realms of projection is when social barriers in my work place started to crumble away when I was present and people have actually noticed and told me they realise it is an affect I am having on the group, old grudges crumpled away and people were saying to me this is weird I would not have normally bothered speaking to this person in the student bar as I don't get on with them in College and comment it happens when I am around. In this instance it gives people the opportunity to glimpse objectivity, I will certainly not start making deliberate introductions as Emily said people will in the long term benefit more from using their own power and skills. In regards to the drawing out and replacing of individual emotions. If there is one thing I have learned from watching professionals argue over diets, treatments, laws and causality. I have noticed it boils down to one thing said in different ways. Everything in moderation; A little bit of everything; the Eastern view that the only absolute in the Universe is there are none. Emmy is right there has to be some guiding ethics and morals and I think Scott your reply confirms that you are employing them but using common sense in their flexibilty, I agree with what you did, provided the recepient is aware and agrees that in severe cases it is right to do so as a one off and then like Emmy said encourage the to get help where they can learn skills to cope by themselves. I regards to hysteria permission can't be sort and having had to deal with that power reaction myself as a Security Officer and Doorsupervisor even if your not an Empath you would still do something from a general empathy stance so adding Empath skills only increase the chances of calming the person down before something tragic happens so do we say it is ethically wrong for a Police Offiser to talk down a suicide no of course not. Ethics help us to think before we act if they become to flexible its corruption if to rigid it is lifeless. No set of rules will ever cover every scenario what happens when you try you end up with a very convoluted set of rules that bog the process down Western legal systems are a perfect example.

Thanks Scott for this discussion please share more this projection thing is wonderful and scary at the same time as I am unskilled and my ethical concern is should I be in bad mood either concious or sub-conciously from my own emotions or others this could get project though. I have noticed positive flow out negatives suck in. Yet apparently I was told by the people in this group when I was sheilding as I didn't no what I was but naturally blocked out the negatives in the workplace that I hurt peole this way. The reason less sensitive people can sense the positives in an Empath and when the Empath shuts down hard the ones that care about them sense that even if on the surface they are still warm and friendly. This subject you raise is important we must be careful how we sheild as well. We have to remember evn less sensitive folk have intuitive senses as well. Sorry for the lenghty reply but this an important issue and thanks for raising it Scott

KitKat
@kitkat
03/19/15 01:53:41PM
25 posts



Hi Firstly respect for the various roles of service you have performed and also for my concerns in this area. When I was younger I wanted to be a Paramedic but shared the concerns you eventually experienced I notice it was cumulative as opposed to sudden. It still leaves me wondering if I should pursue a career as a therapist. There at least seems to be a more stable flow of exposure to negativity which I know I can deal with and it has always been of interest to me, so I would love the career and the helping people.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/18/15 09:08:56PM
25 posts



I have been where you are and occasionally slip back it's a tough phase. I think back to when I was not so smart and remember we all have different life paths coming from different directions with different hurdles. I am physically strong but always struggled with pull ups but I was good at pushing people up and those that are already up can offer a lift up. If the person they are helping is distracted justly or because deep down they are tired or it has become a deep habit for them don't get angry. There is an Eastern proverb the universe is working fine if the fool is still a fool and someone who completely learns something grows and becomes enlightened. There's another expression don't judge a fool he may be a sage in disguise. You will reach a point on your journey where constant talk of the spiritual demeans it. Another proverb from Japan a student is always constantly talking about enlightenment and the zen mind the master say sadly to teach people how to get there is unavoidable but talking about zen mind sickens ones stomach. Meaning don't talk it be it if Mom want to gossip make it positive caring gossip and not just pointless or judgemental stuff be in the moment engaged with her that is enlightenment. Nudge the persons habits into more enlightened forms, if you just want to drive the conversation a certain way this is the ego rebelling against the enlightenment you have already gained and the further your enlightenment grows the stronger and more subtle the ego will become be wary of this. See all in the people in the world as your children is another proverb not as lesser but as if they were your children with all of that love..we don't see children making mistakes and say that's not very enlighten why aren't they growing fast enough, no we smile with a little humour and think back to our own childhood and how we must have been just like this then we nurture with love and kindness. Hope this helps and I appreciate it is easier said than done. But to use a metaphor it is rare to see a race where all participating cross the finish line at the same time!Another problem is trying to make that happen then this happens: Its great to stop and help but for how long if we wait for the slowest we will never reach enlightenment and be able to help those not so far behind us. Hope this is useful.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/18/15 08:35:08PM
25 posts

How to prepare yourself as an Empath for future romantic relationships.


Empath

Thanks Sshh

I will put your advice in practise. My main concerns is reaching that point when having put all of your advice into action. I make the decision: Yes this person respects my boundaries is the real deal and I still clam up on the intimacy side of things. I am amazing with friendships and picking safe people and completely let my guard down with no ill affects. It's the physical aspects of romantic relationships that is the problem. I give for them and when they sincerely give to me but they have told me they feel I shut off inevitably I distance. I am still tactile and loving but it stops outside the bedroom. I don't know if this is fear of past experiences or that I will not only feel my intimate experiences but also there's and its pleasurable but too intense. Or I feel nothing from them and wonder are they not really connected with me or when it comes to sex like a lot of people out their that can really love you sex has become to them...how shall I put it...purely animal or mechanical...or am I shutting off again because I am frightened of what I might discover, drive the long term wedge in and miss out on someone who really cares? Does that make any sense? I guess what I am saying is I can get them to respect the boundaries and all the things you said but at some stage will want to test the long game and use my abilities to really see. Also, it could be a case I have learned to armour myself so instinctively in this area I am going to need to work on it and that inevitably will require the understanding of my partner. Perhaps that is the test for them I can see how willing patient and tender they can be in the process and that should gradually allow me to let my guard down...have I just come up with another reasonable answer here. Which is exactly like yours Sshh but applied to finer and slightly slower progress as it nears a stronger commitment.

Again thanks for the advice and like you said in your last paragraph I have to tune that advice to my path and of course their is no precise and perfect way that works for every scenario...but slow and steady wins the race as the expression goes.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/18/15 06:08:28PM
25 posts

How to prepare yourself as an Empath for future romantic relationships.


Empath

Thanks what you said is a something I keep forgetting that their love I can end up feeling and think its mine. For I to was not always the one making the first move. Thank you for that perspective.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/17/15 06:40:59PM
25 posts

How to prepare yourself as an Empath for future romantic relationships.


Empath

Thanks free thinker

I have had three serious relationships one was an introvert and I a young and naive hopeless romantic unaware of my Empathic abilities in the defined sense. She was abused by her father it came out the intense behaviour of this lady can only be described as Shakespeare put it a shrew and I the rescuer held in there too long. The recent one is a lady simple and uneducated but with a heart of gold. Comfortable for me to be around and love romantically but no spark physically. The middle one was interesting I think she to was an unaware Empath stronger than I more controlled but given the strength almost as undisciplined as myself. She obviously saw we were the same even though we both had no idea what Empath meant. Her need for this deep intimate connection which I realise now she as an Empath could only get from another Empath was counter productive it just drove me into a shell yet the deep love and understanding I had for her was to be expected as we were both Empaths. Unfortunately, unskilled so I guess Empaths can if balanced make the ideal partners but if one or both are unskilled disaster. I want to thank her she taught me a lot about myself. Apologise for any typos here I ventured out for Saint Patrick's Day as I knew the crowd and had a great time and as an Irishman had plenty to drink today. Shame on me though even though crowds are hard for Empaths but I should be a proper Irishman to quote Bill Murray a fellow Irishman he is a true Irishman because he takes St Patricks as his night off from drinking and drinks the other 364. Wishing every Irish person in our community a happy St Patrick's Day Eireann Go Brea! Wishing Freethinker happiness and good luck and thanks for sharing

KitKat
@kitkat
03/17/15 01:45:52PM
25 posts



Hi Karina

Good for you I have had to divorce myself from my family. I sat with them laid my cards on the table and said lets start a change to bring us closer together. My Mom wanted to and my bitter with life Grandmother twisted my words and told my Mom I was calling her a bad parent! Mom not having had here aprons strings cut from my Grandmother enevitably sided with guess who..? I was able to walk away knowing I gave them all a clear last chance. When I find myself thinking of Mom with sadness or friends tell me reunite with her I say no the most Compassionate thing is to go our separate ways. She would try to controll and smother and this time I would resist more blatantly and how is that a happy experience for either of us. Perhaps if she changed and demonstarted that in some very convincing way I might....just might reconsider tentatively and slowly.

It's awesome your a Bill Hicks fan, he has to be a radical Empaths choice of comedian. He is my favourite along with George Carlin. Rock the heavens guys. Keep up the positive direction Karina. Be cautious you don't get carried away for a while it became too easy to cast everyone aside the moment their was the slightest bul from them. I am sure you have things well in hand though. Love and joy

KitKat
@kitkat
03/17/15 01:22:19PM
25 posts

How to prepare yourself as an Empath for future romantic relationships.


Empath

I have been an Empath all my life and not knowing I was one have found fumbled around but found good coping techniques, some freeing, some neutra,l some limiting and some bad. Such as the going off on tangents with impulses. I am working on ending those now. I am happy to be single and no it is a choice now and not just a restriction now that I know what I am but should a romantic relationship happen how do I prepare myself now, as I don't want the negative aspect of being an Empath to mess up a potentially great partnership. There are the normal personality issues and idiosyncracies to take into account I know but in hindsight most of the problems have been poor choices in partner due or shutting down on a great partner and all this due to lack of skills on the Empathic side of my nature. Advice and shared experiences most welcome.


updated by @kitkat: 10/19/17 06:47:57AM
KitKat
@kitkat
03/17/15 12:55:19PM
25 posts



I fully understand your explanation and thanks for sharing that with me. I am guessing it doesn't stick because it is separate from the Empath emotions and more, how shall I put it our personal ones. Knowing where that is coming from within us gives us more influence on attachment an de-attachment. hope that makes sense. I was recently in a severe though fortunatley not fatal RTA and was amazed how I coped. Slight difference I known being the injured as opposed to the medic but theirs a crossover to a degree. Funny you mention odd ones. I have been in Security for a while and people ask about the fights the agressors and the injured (should things go sour) but it is the oddballs that stand out.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/16/15 11:17:27AM
25 posts



Hi Laura

Pleased to meet you. It's funny for some reason I have blocked a lot of childhood memories out but one that springs to mind is when I must have been 3 or 4 years old. I was fasicnated with wanting to be not just a firefighter but the paramedic kind I remember now sitting on the big ladder truck. That urge has never left me. May I ask how you handle losing people in your care it's a cliche question and normally I would be more sensitive about just coming right out with it but I am a newly realised Empath in terms of definition yet thinking back new I was very sensitive as a child. I have learnt to block things in instinctive ways which isn't ideal as I have know control. Some things I have control over. When I have haqd to deal with emergency situations I have surprised myself by keeping calm and have dealt with the after effects surprisingly well.

I could rabbit on forever like my last post making these realisations is like a dam bursting for me, not narcissism. However I will try to contain myself. I would like to say I respect and admire the job you do. I think that everytime I hearthe sirens andsee the ambulance shoot by.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/16/15 05:17:48AM
25 posts



I was born in Inglewood raised until 5 in Van Nuys, grew up in the UK and went back to Cali to work as a Housekeeper and Chauffeur in Malibu for my Mom's old bosses from when she lived there previously. So I learnt to dive with Malibu Divers. My wife of the time was quite introverted and as you can imagine had a hard time dealing with the much more outgoing Californians. She was homesick to so we went back to the UK after 18 months. I got my Instructor ticket in the UK and then went back to CA and lived with a Diving Instructor buddy's friends in Agoura Hills whilst I did my Diving Instruction.

So, Sirah whereabouts in the bay are you living at the moment? I am living in Bournemouth on the South Coast of England, it's as close to the Californian weather and beach life as you can get in a more often than not chilly country like England! Though we still get cold Winters down here.

As to the Diving I don't teach any more I think I joined PADI to late, at a time when they were so productive they flooded the market with Instructors so there weren't any good ways of making a living a it unless you were already well established before that happened.

Funny, I don't no whether this is an Empath thing or whether it was Mom's move back to the UK but I never wanted to settle down in England yet have made a safe place for myself in my flat/apartment and have not wanted to risk moving again as the last few moves didn't pan out.

All through my life I have wondered what the ideal job is for me. Even when I studied Buddhist meditation and read about one of the steps "correct livelihood" that resonated not only as common sense regarding personal ethics but to me as an Empath though at the time I didn't know I was one. I want to go to Uni, people say I am intelligent enough and are surprised I haven't. It would open up doors to have a degree but I always got and arrogant and superior vibe from a lot of people in higher learning places, a big turn off for me. I struggle now at this tiny College just as the Security Guard. Some of it's not Empath vibe I seen it right out there in the open.

So what careers have you pursued and how did you fare? Your sharing would be much appreciated as having recently found out I am an Empath I am going through a big life restructuring one of the changes being my career. I am thinking of doing a degree in some form of Counselling.

I admit it frightens me at mid-life attempting something like this but I have to at least keep trying to consider it and keep it on the table. I think to myself what is the point to being an Empath and not helping people? Though I realize I have to form cut off points so as not to lose myself in the process. I am looking at a Msc at the Karuna Institute that blends East/West psychology into a non religious based therapy system. This I could feel right about, but like your concerns, I will still need to make a decent living at it and will have to deal with student loans and repayments. Urrrgh! What to do...? You have raised a very pertinent Empath question here.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/15/15 06:28:37PM
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Hi

I have never settled in a job for long. Ironically I work in Security and as a Doorman. The internal patrolling of night clubs intense for me at times I preferred the entrance as an Empath I could suss out the trouble makers and was effective in calming them down. I work at a Chiropractic College now. I am not a fan of the Student Bar nights but have tuned in to the youngster and they like me a lot. Unfortunately, I have a tough time with some of the Tutors as they are very arrogant which makes my edgy. I used to be a SCUBA Diving Instructor in CA. Loved that a lot the experience of Diving is serene and creates a positive vibe within groups of students. I was thinking along the lines of healing myself my concern though would be transference with the patient. I avoided becoming a paramedic for the same reason.

KitKat
@kitkat
03/15/15 10:21:43AM
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Hi Everyone

This is a late reply from a new member.Once whenI used to get to wrapped up with the emotions of others and started playing rescuer and suffered the usual fallout a friend introduced me to this song. The artist also happens to produce some excellent work in general and is famous in the Scottish Folk Community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA7ULy3m2X0