Trapped in Webs W/ Spiders

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts

Webs & Spiders

It's come down to this....

 I no longer have visitors, visions or interaction with anything.

Why? 2 reasons 

1) because the webs have taken over everything. They prevent and try to duplicate whatever comes near. 

2) because I suppress everything - vision, interaction or thoughts. I dare not to even  glance at anything too long for fear of engagement.

Although it's near impossible I do my  best to avoid 

I get really annoyed and sometimes overwhelmed but keep it on the down low. I do remind that I feel  this attempt to contact doesn't feel right and I am not going to allow it.  However, this just makes for more determination. In retribution, one time they created a very realistic black spider hanging down near me. I knew it wasn't really there. As I turned in bed one night I saw another spider on my pillow. This one was gold. Catching me off guard; I jumped and tried to brush it off; with clear mind I knew right away. Right now the webs are spreading across the walls. Unusual with the TV on but they know I am writing this post. They are smart and can learn.

It still alludes how to describe the webs. I can keep them at bay a little while if I keep the TV on or lights or both. The second they are turned off it's party time. They encompass the entire bedroom, down the hall and into the master bath. It's not confined there; it can be anywhere. It can be dense or sparse and separate. I try to ignore.  Getting up and going down the hall to the; bathroom I push them back. I pretend I am not walking through a thick maze of sometimes black or often a lighter twinkling fog. I cover my head with blankets. If I look out I catch the attention of one or more small groups. They rush me. I don't       want to find out why. There is some sort of obsession. 

I believe it is all controlled by this mysterious man / entity. It's my own fault. During travels (while awake) I encountered a situation where I thought there was an injustice. I thought some (people?) were being confined and controlled by a (man?). For some stupid reason I can't "not" help someone in need no matter who or what.

I could only get a fleeting glance of him. I encouraged him to show himself fully. Little by little as time went on he did. I began to get uncertain when he started appearing when I closed my eyes. I learned to control my mind to block. He became more insistent and now almost desperate. I only have to close my eyes. I immediately see a waving gauzy lace patterned curtain with a frantic flurry of (spiders?) and he rushes toward me. He has unruly longish sterling gray hair sometimes facial hair or glasses. His entire coloring is gray. Pretty much the head is the only thing visible. The age is probably late mid range. He now has his mouth open as he approaches. It isn't like for a kiss. It seems as though he wants to cover my mouth. The only thing I know for guarding to do is walk on the ground with bare feet. I have tried really, really hard to shield. I am not sure if I am doing it right. I think you have to visualize some form of encase mentality. I can't get passed the mental picture I have when I close my eyes. I have to say visualization is not my best suit. I don't have stones or whatever is used to "smudge". I am so down to earth. 

I really try to wrap my head around all this but it does not compute. 

I just want him? it? they? Whatever it is to GO AWAY. I want to get back to a normal life. I dread nights. I  have to stay awake until I fall asleep and then wake often. I can't just close my eyes to go to sleep because right away he's  there.

Ghosts were ok but this is totally invasive and  wanting control

My husband does not see or believe so it's the elephant in the room.


updated by @just-stevie: 11/10/17 06:48:47PM
Cat Whisperer
Cat Whisperer
@cat-whisperer
7 months ago
754 posts
For what it’s worth, I’m no expert but I would be getting some white sage and do some major smudging. I would also get some black tourlamine for good measure...and wear it all the time. If you cannot find these items locally you can purchase them from the net. There are also sites that explain the proper way to smudge if you are not familiar with the practice. I also sleep with an amethyst crystal geode next to my bed to keep bad visions/dreams at bay.
Good luck to you on ridding yourself of this invader.
Blessings
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts
Thank you Cat- whisperer
I will look into those things

Thank you for sharing Ohda
WOW! your experience was the closest to mine of any I have heard.
I was plunged into the Paranormal world 2 yrs ago. I have reached out to this group many times. Its a great group. If you ever had the time and energy to look in the archives you would practically have a book by me to read.. LOL
I am (just a bit, lol) long winded

At the beginning it was like a whole new world to me (still kinda is) that I didn't understand or believe in. I am not spiritual or religious No hearts and flowers Just find the cause and fix it
In stark balance I am a bleeding heart, big time. I always put others needs in front of my own. I am not a martyr but I am always trying to help even when I shouldn't. Then I discovered I was an Empath. I am not an emotional person but while in check, my emotions are still all over the place; if that makes sense. So now I know why and try to give others, that don't react the way I do, a break.

Ok so I am way off the trail; back to your experience.... It's so familar it's spooky; especially the open mouth. Although to the contrary, I have never felt fear with any of my encounters. This could be my level head poking in on things. My experiences have been varied and daily.
UNTIL this web thing got involved. It has evolved so many times and it is much stronger.
Still though I have a bit of control. I can stop a web from proceeding and change it's path. The trouble is although they are united they can break away in groups and then I am overwhelmed. I am talking every square inch of my room being filled with a dense fog. These webs seem protective; almost like they need me. They seem to attack others who get near me. (of course, no one knows or sees it) At night if I even peek out from under the covers a group / groups rush at me like a child would. They try to emulate things or sights I have seen in the recent past. For instant last night I felt a presence (normal) and woke up. I looked to see my deceased cat of some years ago; sitting there. He was white and totally realistic. I reached out to pet him and found it was just the webs forming a duplication. There getting better at it. They are smart and can learn. They have gone from stick figure spiders to full out believable Tarantulas.

At a point in time (after MANY varied occurrences) the man got involved (totally my own fault)
When I rebuffed him at first he looked confused and hurt. All I have to do is shake my head no or hold up the palm of my hand and he backs off. Now it's with determination. The minute I close my eyes even in the shower; a shear patterned curtain billowing in different colors appears. He starts to come into focus and proceed towards me, mouth open. I first got suspicious when I noticed behind the curtain was a flurry of spiders/ web.

I do believe your hagg was sucking the life out of you.
I am weak and tired all the time and having medical problems. I looked in the mirror one day and said OMG! (total body) I look like my grandmother.

Every computer, laptop, tablet and smart phone in the house constantly malfunctions. The circuit board in the pool filter was fried for the 2nd time in about a year plus some other expensive part. At the same time the well pump circuit board got fried (no storm or lightning). Oh,
almost forgot the TV in spare room hardly been used just stopped working.

I tried shielding (I think) I imagined being encased in a Crystal Dome... Ok that didn't work Then I was floating in the pool the other day. The sky was a beautiful clear blue no clouds The pool was the same blue. I imagined being surrounded by this beautiful blue. Still nothing. I even tried to call on Archangel Michael. I've been told he? offers protection. Of course, I don't know what you say to an Angel. I have no concept of an angel to draw on

Could not get the man's face, spiders and web out of my mind. I never was a visual person and lack attention span. I think though, I must have been able to visualize something before but now can only see my mind abductor

One other thing. Initially the webs returned to the ceiling fan. Don't even ask LOL
They now meld into the Spanish Lace texured walls. It can't be this house because long before I moved here I had seen the pattern. Anything black has an overlay of burgundy when I look at it. Maybe the house and I are in tandem now?
Cat Whisperer
Cat Whisperer
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7 months ago
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Seeing that this thing seems to be following you, it would be a good idea to smudge yourself as well if you decide to go the smudging route. Perhaps this thing is draining your energy is why you feel drained and tired all the time. The medical issues....have you seen a medical professional to get a diagnosis? With me, I have in the past had medical issues that the medical professionals didn’t seem to find anything wrong. In that case it was clear to me it was a for lack of better words, a spiritual issue. I am hesitant to say paranormal as with me, I am a physical empath...which means I pick up others’ medical issues as my own. Is it possible that you might be also? It also could be this thing, as really strong entities can make you sick. Too many things going on right now with you too be able to tell. Since realizing this I can deal with it in other ways. Most clear up when the person that has the issue gets medical treatment. This happens quite a bit with my father. Off track here.....
Since electronic devices are malfunctioning along with your drain of energy.....this thing is using you and the gadgets to feed itself....not good. I personally feel that it is malicious and needs to be put in check. Constantly shielding from this thing is also going to wear you down. You might also try seeking out a Reiki master to assist you with this if it is too much to handle on your own. Time to use alternative methods in my opinion.
Blessings
updated by @cat-whisperer: 10/29/17 06:32:58AM
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts

《《《First of all I want to thank both cat-whisperer & ohdo ♡♡♡♡

I really appreciate the thought and effort you both are offering. It's lonely in the paranormal world and not something easily shared. There has always been a great deal of support on this forum when I sought help. ♡♡♡♡♡  》》》

Next when I first began the post below I said something about being brief - not gonna happen LOL  I can use the excuse that I am addressing 2 responders but if you have looked at any of my past posts I would be busted! Simple fix; I will break it into parts... ha ha!

Probably a good time to mention I am kinda snarky and I often make light of things when I give responses. Rest assured I am as serious as a heart attack. It's all in jest.

I am very strong (apparently not physically at this point LOL ☆ see! I lean towards "snipey") but inside where it matters I am a good match for most anything that comes my way.》》》

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts

《《《Health Report:  I'm pretty savvy in med stuff. It fascinates me.  I partner with my Dr and often diagnose & prescribe for myself. (LOL) 

It comes from spending years with "Specialists", prescriptions. drug studies and lots of reading. Only to have my primary  Dr diagnose "Fibromyalgia" BINGO! I refused any more pills. My MO is Welbutrin & Advil & Power thru. 

Blood tests every 3 months to monitor kidney function  Iron a little low - quick fix

 I am very vain I think it hits me where I live

I can literally see myself aging.》》》

《《《Quick (hopefully) Recap to see the depth>>

Yrs before moving at the end of 2012 whenever I looked at anything black I would see a >burgundy overlay pattern? no biggie ~ ignore

Once while watching TV I saw 3 white "somethings" peak around a  corner. I looked in the other room ~ gone  Imagination¿ Sure

Always have heard faint talking/some music Sounded like a radio station ~ shrug !

Much more profound here

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts

I have already been asleep, sense them, wake-up pinch self, walk around nope - wide awake

3 Visitor Types - Right away I go to "maybe they need my help"

1st type > Always different, Never familar - appear nightly, coming just to see me. 

Often attempt communication 

Pleasant, enjoyable often leaving positive emotions

2nd> I could see them - they could see me They were bewildered. Some a little frightened

3rd> I could see them. They had no clue I was there I felt like a voyeur  LOL》》》

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts
《《《MBR Ceiling fan = hub ~ wiggles blades to attempt communications Understands what I say and I think brought & control webs.
Sends lighthouse type signals allows orbs to pass thru (glass sliding door n MBR) - I stopped it I said no one passes without my permission (yes I talk to fans & anything else that moves)🙄🙃
There are 3 or 4 other exit portals

《《《 Web gets & continues to be more assertive
At one point entire inside of house was draped w/thick cobwebs! small webs appear all over anytime corners, cabinets, anywhere. Also
Sheer drape? Can't figure out what to call it.? Can drape over doors, doorways, furniture, entire rooms often even the walls are covered.
Getting close to draped things causes disorientation & a feel of being pulled
Went through drape reaching across sliding glass door to look and see what might be there? = saw large area of green grass surrounded by trees I am looking down from 2nd floor (our house is 1 story) There is straight drop No balcony no steps.
I have gotten lost in rooms that were fully draped
Patio - when dark is totally black (to me) I am lost can't see anything. Went towards husband's voice but jumped back as people¿ started to exit his body as though it was a bus stop 5 or 6 then disappear in the night.》》》

《《《 Outside webs spread over the entire (large) front yard attaching to surrounding trees and extending and attaching to 10 large Christmas blowups.
doesn't see I grab some and wrap it around my hand open to show him, nothing!.
Have seen short movie clips on walls, windows, doors, of people/family doing normal stuff 》》》

《《《 For several days (maybe weeks) when lying on exercise table at gym I looked at ceiling and see 3 -10 second off & on motion visions of people riding carnival rides.》》》

《《《 News reported kids being stuck top of a ride - visions disappeared. Coincidence? probably 》》》

《《《Here's where the trouble begins...
I press for answers who, what, when, where? I close my eyes and I am taken on a tour I have the physical feeling of being transported.

During that period there is "mysterious man" who teases; giving peeks at his face. I never saw his body, shoulders maybe. I kept coaxing. I wanted to know who, what, why. Sometimes I almost thought he was my grandmother, who I idolized. She's been go a long time. The hair and exact same eye glasses Same smile. I so wanted it to be but knew it was not. He could appear differently, facial hair, glasses at times, broken teeth
After a while I suspected although not evil or scary, something was off. I told him I didn't trust anymore and told him and webs to leave. Of course, he wouldn't.

When he knows I am trying to get rid of him he gets desperate and goes crazy w/ the webs.
Now it's critical. I wake up early look toward the clock and I am rushed he is front and center. Very unnerving, I quick throw the sheet over my head. I feel for my tablet and with the brightest screen hold it up and shine it around. It's 6 a.m. but that's it for sleep. If I close my eyes before I can count 1001 (1 second ) he appears closer each time. I am not really sure what would happen; don't wanna know.》》》

《《《 I have in the past felt as though I had something wrapped around my wrists. I didn't think anything of it. Well today it's both wrists up to my elbows. I am pretty certain it's his doing. I was in the doctors office today. I had to constantly avert my eyes because the "web" carnival ride would instantly appear.》》》

《《《 ¡!●BIG TROUBLE●¡!
I am researching where to get the suggested items to aid in removal. He knows - desperation is showing. More advances, losng fear of light 》》》

《《《 This afternoon while bracing a large flat screen TV being relocated; the waving black patterned sheer drape held behind a frenzy of webs.
The "man's" face looming toward me.》》》

《《《 In the evening, in the living room, with TV on, some low lighting and my husband right there; webs come to that room. They are more aggressive black almost like netting. Coming in large groups they spread across the room taking over. Just how far will/can they go?》》》
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts
The Paranormal World
The Paranormal World is a lonely place to be
There are sights and sounds and feelings that are only meant for me
Family and friends try to understand but they don't think it's true
Because why would all of this be happening to only you
Stop all this craziness I know you think I should
If I were in control of it don't you think I would
Just because I am different you think that I don't care
Just because I am not like you to judge me is not fair
It's not easy keeping secrets it's like living with a lie
but the truth is met with questions and I can't tell you why
Some say it is a gift Some say it is a curse
I am not really sure which one of these
is worse
Tiffany Blue
(Stevie)
Cat Whisperer
Cat Whisperer
@cat-whisperer
7 months ago
754 posts
I believe you....and I don’t think you are crazy. The bulk of society is conditioned to not believe what they cannot sense with their 5 senses. That mental conditioning is what makes discussing the paranormal so taboo. It is a gift if you have a handle on it, however, it can be perceived as a curse when things get out of control, which in your case seems to be true. I wish you all the best in dealing with this entity.
Blessings
Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
7 months ago
899 posts
We've told you you have at least 3 entities messing with you....and also given the same advice that cat-whisperer has given you...so...do you think your strong enough to deal with these beings on your own?...which in my opinion you are not as you don't have any intention to fight for your self...these beings are Not gonna let you go without a fight..you have to DO something....or they're gonna suck you dry...you CAN do something...your NOT helpless....take control BACK....FIGHT!!!!!....I smudged before posted this...so bring it on you morons!...
updated by @womanwhowalks: 11/06/17 06:25:57PM
Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
7 months ago
899 posts
You might wanna smudge @cat-whisperer...these ones travel....and sever any cords...
Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
7 months ago
899 posts
@just-stevie....Heck...i'll send you the whole smudge kit just to get you started...just say the word....i'll send it to you....no charge...
updated by @womanwhowalks: 11/07/17 12:32:03AM
Cat Whisperer
Cat Whisperer
@cat-whisperer
7 months ago
754 posts
@womanwhowalks
Thanks for the heads up! Yes, I am dealing with something very dark right now.....was wondering where it came from. Smudged, salted, cut cords but it only seems to last a few hours. Doesn’t help that I am also dealing with 3 fractures in my pelvic area right now, so I am kinda weak.....and it knows it. More energy work today....exhausting......but this too shall pass....and go away!
Going to light the Palo Santo
Blessings
updated by @cat-whisperer: 11/07/17 07:14:26AM
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts
Thank you to all those who have ever responded.
Not meaning to make light of help that I have gotten from all others I try to let everyone know as I receive advice, knowledge and sharing that it is very much appreciated. If I have missed anyone I apologize. In particular I have received help many times from Bing, Bill Walker, Hop daddy, pinesprings, cat-whisperer, ohdo, karen2,

womanwhowalks
I didn't mean to slight you. Maybe because I have learned a little more each day or because the explaination from cat-whisperer was on a level I better understood.
You have given me quite a bit of Paranormal speak, which is great. Unfortunately you are over my head in most cases. I try to relate to what you suggest but much of it "does not compute"
Usually I can get a pretty good read on people through written word but I am totally perplexed by you. There is concern yet impatience, kindness yet anger. I know you have a lot you could teach me. The problem remaining I REALLY don't understand much of what is said Not just you but others as well. I do go research and read but it remains foreign to me. I still don't know if I am actually trying to shield or spinning my wheels. I haven't a clue how to meditate. If it is clearing your mind that's not gonna work. I can not concentrate long enough to even count without having to start over again and again. My mind wanders all over the place. I can't visualize. I have to actually see it. I thought smudging was like putting ashes or whatever on with a thumb. I know now but there is a million different types so I don't know which to ordér. I know about energy but how it works alludes me. I don't understand clearing or cutting cords. I don't know how to fight back. I would do these things if I knew how. It's like when I was struggling with Algebra my father tried to teach me the Binary system. I know I am strong enough to keep it or them at bay at least for awhile. I have some degree of control over them. I know I am fighting a losing battle. All of this is unbelievable to me.

My mind set was "There's no heaven no hell" When you die it's game over That people can't accept the fact that we are not indispensible The life we know on planet Earth is really more of a Science Experiment That there is most certainly a higher power but not in the sense that life is important Life is what you make it while your here on planet Earth. That the only Angels I knew were little cherubs with Halos. The charity that I founded and executed Foster Angels Org. Is someone going out and purchasing a 🎁 gift for a child from their wish list at 🎄 Christmas. I have collected and distributed as many as a thousand a year. It's all so very personal. People (😇 Angels) providing gifts for the Foster Children (👼 Angels) I am an enigma; basically a cynic with a 💔 bleeding heart)
Sorry, got on a roll again. 😆

I know it's real but how can it be possible.
I was a weekend hippie. That should give you an idea of how long my beliefs have been imprinted. I know it gets more serious by the day. I know as I lay in my bed right know I feel a funny butterfly sensation going throughout my entire body and not for the first time, stealing my energy. The dark webs are traveling over the walls and across the ceiling. I know if I turn the TV off it will signal for an all out takeover of every square inch of space. I also know I can't close my eyes because he will invade my mind. If I should wake up the minute my eyes are open and they see they will start rushing me. They only way I know to fight is to starve them of attention and deprive them of emotion. I don't & won't feel fear
I STILL NEED ALL AND ANY HELP I CAN GET 👺
Please don't give up on me.

Didnt send this last might and just read this mornings post

YES, I would love a kit. PM me? for address
I finally got my husband to come on board to at least acknowledge and offer to help smudge without wanting me to have brain surgery. (at least not yet)

Just read another post that just came in

womanwhowalks
So Sorry your enduring such pain physically and emotionally and still helping others! Your are very strong
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
7 months ago
124 posts

Thank you but NM on sage my husband ordered something online 

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
7 months ago
899 posts
Ok...I'm frustrated FOR you....and I can tell that something is not right with you....half the time I think your drunk or stoned....I need to be shown things as well to learn....but you've had 3 people tell you about the entities and you turn them off....and we ALL said the exact same thing....pretty much word for word....so...u not understanding has nothing to do with how I said it....plain English...entities....and smudge...anyway...i'd be happy to send you the starter kit...really....very happy....lol
Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
7 months ago
899 posts
Cat Whisperer:
@womanwhowalks
Thanks for the heads up! Yes, I am dealing with something very dark right now.....was wondering where it came from. Smudged, salted, cut cords but it only seems to last a few hours. Doesn’t help that I am also dealing with 3 fractures in my pelvic area right now, so I am kinda weak.....and it knows it. More energy work today....exhausting......but this too shall pass....and go away!
Going to light the Palo Santo
Blessings
Put tobacco in the smudge...give yourself a full body smudge...start with washing your face with the smoke and head...then work up from the bottom of your feet...you can do the front of you then the back....make sure you do your back as that's usually where entities latch on...give it a REAL good blast...use sage sweet grass and ceder tobacco....this will also help sooth your injuries...
updated by @womanwhowalks: 11/07/17 01:34:46PM
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts

I don't drink, do drugs or even smoke

I smudged every square inch of my house

Set off 2 smoke alarms

Feeling great about clearing out bad energy

That lasted about an hour....

Now - it's worse

They did not appreciate the attempt to uproot 

They are VERY aggressive now and showing me thier power is greater 

Really curious? {How is it determined that there are three and most likely more entities involved? Is it determined by thier actions? Can an entity be seen? Do they work in tandem? or Do you just know? }

Right now it's morning the blinds aren't open yet so the room is semi lite However usually at this point they are flying vertically across the room probably blending into the walls Not this morning

The really dark webs (they know I hate) are extending from walls to ceiling and several wide sections of the web are dangling across and anchoring to the ceiling fan Once they are there they reach out and attach to me and my tablet. The ceiling fan blades are waving excitedly to get my attention I feel as though something is wrapped around my forearm and holding Not New, only this time I can't make it release There is an achy feeling starting to run up my arm from elbow to shoulder and fingers are starting to tingle

 NOT a stroke or heart attack It is to attempt connection 

Not scared  but Frustrated and Freaked out!

I had intended on a short little FYI  looks like I didn't quite make it

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
6 months ago
899 posts
Tell me how you smudged...how you smudge is very important...
Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
6 months ago
899 posts
They kinda show themselves to me...and I felt them as well....i saw a spider hanging and something not a spider....but I felt there were three at one point....it all just comes on its own...I know they're there....they know I know and are trying to scare me away....which won't happen since I'm not afraid of them....that's one of the things they use to intimidate...fear....they're scared so now they're trying to scare you....you back down and they're happy....but that's when you have to become NOT scared and stand up to them....they're spirit of some sort....and you need help dealing with them...I want to teach you how to smudge but I also know you have no idea how it FEELS to smudge or what it's purpose is...and there are MANY purposes for the smudge not just one or two....feeling the smudge and energy and directing the smudge and energy is ALSO important....
updated by @womanwhowalks: 11/29/17 02:16:23PM
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts

I got a 6" bundle of White Sage
Lite it then let it burn down a little bit.
Tested until there was uninterrupted smoke. My husband helped to maintain steady stream

Starting with myself from the bottom up, like an airport scan and proceeding to do the same to my husband

Beginning with the master bedroom ceiling fan and light. That has always been the hub.
Then set off in a clockwise motion, allowed the smoke to reach every inch of space in bedroom, concentrating on corners and out of the way places. Fanning as we moved; originally using a feather but found it was not effective.
Down MB hall, stopping to hit both large walk-in closets, entered master bath paying close attention to corners and odd places and into separate potty room. Back down the MB hall and into the office. From there continuing clockwise, applied to living room / dining room, making sure to reach tray ceilings. Continuing in like fashion went through kitchen, pantry, laundry room into other bedrooms including hall and pool bath.
It took an hour and a half and set off 2 smoke detectors. Windows were cracked to let the negative out and positive in. Steady monologue of expectations.
As we went through rooms many little spiderlike creatures came out of hiding places. I thought they were leaving.

Instead of retreating they became more aggressive and tried to intimidate. I have no fear whatsoever. I just want them go away so I can live in peace. I am very verbal to them.

I didn't mind the visitors (ghosts, spirits whatever). I felt positive emotions and connections. Once the webs showed up that stopped.

The spider/ web thing has evolved dramatically. From fine hair like webs and stick figure like black spiders they can now simulate realistic tarantulas and hanging colourful spiders.
They move with feelers independently or as a group/ group They are in perpetual motion. They assume the shapes in the Spanish Moss plaster walls and blend in.They invade entire room / rooms or hangout in corners etc appearing as cobwebs or dirt. Darkness brings them out. My entire room looks as though it was enveloped in a sense ice fog. though I see them come out more in light as of late; in wait along the ceiling to wall meet up. I see them floating about in daytime like when sunlight streaming tnrough a window picks up dust particles. They are CREEPY!
They are probably responsible for the rippling within the walls, the rolling motion of beds & carpet, the waving of ceiling fan paddles. Of course no one sees any of this except for me.
It is not restricted to my home.

I am not sure if the man is there because of the webs or the webs are there because of the man. I got I involved with the man be
cause I wanted to know who he was. He would reveal glimpses of himself from various views. I finally got tired of his antics and told him I no longer cared about seeing him. I said I didn't trust him. I felt he was not a positive source. He then began to persue me. He appeared everytime I closed my eyes. He began to try to reach me. He would have his mouth open trying to come in contact with my mouth.
I stop him with a shake of my head or holding up my hand. He will look dejected, sad and confused

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
6 months ago
899 posts
Good job! Ok....So they reacted badly to the smudge which is normal...and one came by today and gave me a nip....warning I guess...So..i was thinking....have u tried taking out the light fixture?....something's opened up a hole for them to come thru...and since that's where the hub seems to be...I'm thinking perhaps it may be the light fixture that caused a door to open...also I could be wrong too...but it would be worth a try to remove it and see what happens....I'd leave the spot empty for a time and continue to smudge....if they don't like it they may move off...I'd also try turning off the electricity to that fixture....it may be the current is keeping the hole open....my thought is that the barrier that's between their reality and our reality was thin in the first place...and was breached when the house was built in some way....I wouldn't be surprised if there are more places they're coming thru into our world...anyway...I'm just trying to give you ideas to try and close this hole....it may take something more but removing the fixture would be a good experiment....I would expect the rippling your seeing would be the opening between our world's....and about the spirit guy?....SHE'S MARRIED!....sheesh....lol...I think he's not with the spider creatures....he's a separate entity...
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts

I can't remove or turn power off to fan. It is over my bed. It's a very large & heavy intricate design combo fan & light. My husband would not go for either. He did help with smudging but only because it might help me to realize "there's nothing there" and he still wants me to go to a doctor. So he is definitely not on board.

Interesting thing, when visitors used to come pretty much nightly, there were different exits they used. I'm not sure about entrance. They would just be there. One night I woke up to find white shapeless Orbs? flying around the room and mass exiting through glass slider in master bedroom. I said whoa! (to the fan) there will be no more exits without my knowledge. There were few more.

The thing is I got the impression the fan was communicating with someone/thing out side. Every night a short occurrence of bright light would go from the fan to outside. Like it was a lighthouse. One night I actually saw for myself, it did in fact come from the fan motor. It was a very defined bright single beam.
I used to talk to the fan a lot (certifiable? I think yes! LOL) I believe my words were understood. The fan communicated by waving the blades when I spoke, often frantically. At some point I realized the fan had it's own agenda. Somewhere in there the webs inserted themselves. Visitors stopped, I think fan no longer had control over the webs. They learned and improved starting with poor imitations of a visitor and spiders. I was fearful maybe it was the house. I love it, my husband hates it.
Not quite sure without checking notes; I found my visions? were not limited to the house.
Not sure how or when (I have called it many things because I couldn't find a word to describe) the sheet /drape/covering etc?¿ came into play but I realized it had the same burgundy design I had seen for many years before whenever I looked at anything black. Mostly clothing, towels, sheets etc. It was then apparent it was not just the house. It was either all me or a combo with the house. I had already lived there for about 3 yrs.

It seems this morning things are a little subdued. Daytime things are not active much but there is residual. I am afraid to test in fear I might I encourage.

Have you felt anything? At least anything bad. I don't believe they are harmful but they are vengeful in a pathetic way.

Early this morning I did close my eyes for a second and the man appeared instantly with out spider involvement. He rapidly came toward me, as usual, I shook my head and held my hand up to stop. For the first time he had an entire body. It was so quick and unexpected I didn't capture his wardrobe. It seems there were large buttons somewhere. He came forward scowling as he passed me he showed his teeth in a threatening manner

Maybe, maybe not Important....
He came toward me but veered to my left to disappear behind me. I used to train dogs. Part of establishing Alpha would be to keep dog to your left side. Right side is Alpha.
Probably meaningless trivia LOL.

To be fair I did bring the "man" on myself through curiosity and then compassion I allowed my mind to accept travel. I did always say "I am coming back" and had complete control at all times; I pursued him for answers before realizing I couldn't, shouldn't interfere or try to save.

Hoofbeats
Hoofbeats
@hoofbeats
6 months ago
8 posts

Yes, for some reason portals do seem to open up in bedrooms. I think something about it being where we sleep, and where we are most open to those sorts of things make it easier for them to get in in the first place. I'm going to be helping Just Stevie clear things out this week, and I will get some assistance to close the portals. I don't think smudging is going to help much in her case. I've never smudged, and I don't think these entities like it, but their hold is pretty strong, and I think it's going to take different measures to get rid of them. I've dealt with this type of creature before (I've had them try to creep in my house and make little homes), but have always gotten rid of them before it turned into an infestation. They're not too hard to deal with, just shoot them with some light and they explode (hehe), but again, I think it's the number of these critters that it'll make it more difficult.

By any chance, is the man about 5'7", sort of floaty looking, robbed in a very dark blue (almost black), and has no distinguished face? I am just curious here, but I have seen others that look like that, and that's always the picture that comes to mind when you mention him.

Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Hi Stevie,

I used to be a psychiatric social worker. First, I want to be clear that am NOT doubting what you've seen. I also have a portal in my bedroom and a tall, dark male shape comes through as well as a 3 ft. wide black spider. The difference is that the whole thing disappears if my husband wakes up, so I am pretty sure it is his unconscious aggression coming out. He is totally passive in his waking life and never allows himself to get angry. Also, I have had my blood levels of neurotransmitters measured, and they are highly abnormal, which brings me to something in the physical world you may want to try, to see if it may have anything to do with this.....

I am just wondering if you have recently been evaluated as to whether you still need that Wellbutrin you said you are taking in a post above, or if your dosage of it is correct or may be too high. Because of my former career, an alarm went off for me when you said you take Wellbutrin. I include below an excerpt I copied from a website called bluelight, a forum where the use of Wellbutrin is being discussed:

HERE IS THE THE QUOTE I COPIED FROM THE FORUM:

"Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone else was curious (stupid may be a better word) like me, and tried using Wellbutrin (bupropion) for a recreational purpose. I took approximately 3,000 mg (which is a bad idea) and began to have vivid hallucinations all throughout the night and even the next day. In my bedroom, I saw tons of spiders and scorpions crawling all along my ceiling and eventually dropping down on me. Spiders were literally everywhere, and when they were falling on me, I would physically feel the touch of their legs on my skin (it was very odd).

I also witnessed what appeared to be an older man (it was so convincing) that would sit at the end of my bed and laugh at me, but obviously he was just a part of the hallucinations. At one point I remember seeing myself lying on my bedroom floor covered with the spiders and what looked to be a weird type of centipede. I cannot describe how scared I was at first, but after a while I realized that it was all in my head and things eventually got better. Every object in my room would just constantly sway back and forth and it was very interesting to watch. Eventually, I somehow managed to fall asleep through all the chaos, and unfortunately, I do not remember much else from this experience."

END OF THE PART I COPIED

There was a long thread on this, but I did know that Wellbutrin could cause dopamine hallucinations, so I went looking. It took me less than 3 minutes to find this, and the similarities in this person's hallucinations on Wellbutrin and your experiences seem uncanny. Again, I am NOT saying that is what they are, only that I would like to see you investigate this angle, since it seems it could be much easier to fix than the paranormal alternative.

I am no expert at removing annoying spirits, though I am an empath for sure, but psych is my field, and I am sometimes worried when I see folks on this forum automatically assuming everything is paranormal, without investigating ALL the possibilities. 

With great respect and love to all who have posted here, and praying you find a solution to what must seem horrifying,

Cheshire Cat

Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Hi hoofbeats,

With reference to my own problem with a portal above, I have tried throwing the light at them like you do and it did not work at all. It seems you may be a light warrior too.....I have tried to "resign" from doing that, and the 3rd try seems to have worked. There are a couple other light warriors here, but we do not often post, since the need for us to do what we do tends to be argued with by light workers, lol. Like most empaths, I do not like confrontations, not even with POS Archons, let alone with other empaths. 

I have powdered many soulless Archons by throwing light from my finger tips, but so far, the only  thing that works on this large man and the spider is for my spouse to wake up, or for me to just tell them they don't scare me,  and roll over and shut my eyes. I do not do this because I am brave, but because I am terminally ill, so I figure there is nothing they can do to me that late stage Lyme disease is not already doing, including lowering my neurotransmitter levels so low they are not even readable...I should be dead just from that!

If you know of any other techniques stronger than throwing the light, please do let me know! Swords, given by other more advanced Light Warriors have not worked either. Maybe these things can help Stevie too, if it turns out her problem is paranormal, which is why I posted this instead of sending a PM. I am hoping it is the drug in her case, since that would be so much simpler to fix.

Thank you in advance for any ideas,

Cheshire Cat

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
6 months ago
899 posts
Just to be clear...I HAVE suggested she see her doctor about her meds as have others....if she doesn't do it I can't make her as she's an adult...So I'm trying to help clear her mind as well...the smudge won't close the portal but it could push the spiders away from the portal if they don't like it...they're insects at the end of all this...and finding something to move them away I thot was a good idea....all I know is there IS something real about this as I've been bitten by one of those insects yesterday...it just popped out and bit me...I felt it and I'm not on this welbutrin medication...and there ARE other beings there as well
...So she isn't making it ALL up....and for all I know that portal may have been there longer than the house and it may not be able to close...I have no idea....some things you just can't fix....but we can try until all has been tried and all has failed....
updated by @womanwhowalks: 11/30/17 02:02:08PM
Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Hi womanwhowalks,

I thought I'd made a point out of saying that I did not think she was making it all up, no matter what caused it, but I'll say it again to be sure.  If one of them actually bit you, then as you say, it must not be the drug. I may be asking you about this if the spider I saw bites me. I am not on that drug either, ,but am going through a drug withdrawal and not sleeping much. I have already tried smudging as well, using cedar and the standard smudging procedure. That drug is well known for causing such hallucinations, even on normal doses, which is why I posted the suggestion. I thought I'd read the whole thread before I posted, but my memory is bad due to brain damage from Lyme Disease, and I must have forgotten or missed reading the part about one biting you or about asking about her drugs. I would not have posted all that, if I'd known that first! Thank you so much for pointing that out, and I am so sorry to have wasted everyone's time. 

Have a nice evening,

Cheshire Cat

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
6 months ago
899 posts
It's not about wasting time....meaning you haven't wasted anyones time...it's about being clear...and now You've cleared things up and i forgive you...So please forgive me...and smudging during withdrawl is a good idea as it will ward off any bad entities and energies trying to take advantage of your low energy....and protect you....no worries....lol
updated by @womanwhowalks: 11/30/17 03:23:31PM
Hoofbeats
Hoofbeats
@hoofbeats
6 months ago
8 posts

@Womanwhowalks

I've been bitten by these astral spiders too. I would keep an eye on the bite. I ended up having to go to the doctor over it for antibiotics as it swelled up and turned into a skin infection. (Maybe I'm wrong and it was something else, but I crunched it, and the carcass was nowhere to be found. It hurt like heck, and trust me, I spent over an hour looking for it so I wouldn't step on it again just in case). This bite happened in June, and they leave me alone now, but I would say be careful and keep an eye on it.

@Cheshire Cat

I suppose you can say I'm a light warrior, but I have been on a sort of hiatus for the past couple of years. Long story short, I was just starting to figure out my own abilities, but unfortunately my "mentor" at the time turned out to be someone other than who she was pretending to be, and sent her little minions (or big minions) after me to shut me off after I became too strong (I guess she saw me as a threat, or was jealous, I have no idea... She was a bit of a narc, or maybe even a psychopath, which is strange in an empath as strong as she was, but whatever). Of course, I trusted her, and didn't want to believe her capable of doing what she did so I was in denial for a long time, until after it was too late and they made a big mess of things. I've been on relapse for a little over a year, but I still can't do half the things I was able to do before she blocked everything. I feel like I'm almost there, and I've had several people (reliable sources) tell me that all of this junk will be gone, and I will be healed completely in time, but it's the patience part that's hard. I miss having my empath, and I miss being able to help people with the gifts I have. But I try to look at this as a season of resting, learning, and preparing for what's ahead, but for some reason I am drawn to the battle and am chomping on the bit more than a little, lol.

Sorry, I didn't mean zapping the portals with light, I meant the spiders. I don't know how to close the portals on my own, but I do have help if I need to shut one. From what I've gathered, there's certain words that need to be said to shut it, and then the whole door and its connections need burned. Again, I don't know the details, but I've watched enough of them get shut that I have a general idea as to how it's done, lol. As for the spiders, I've either gotten rid of them by zapping them with light, by crushing them with a light shield, or when I'm strong enough, I'm able to create a sword made out of light. It seems to work pretty well against most things, and I've found that if I push some extra light energy through it, I can get the stronger entities to explode too. Like I said, I've had to lay off of most fighting the past couple of years (I've had to leave it to my guardians), but this worked very well for me in the past, and still works in a pinch now.

I hope all this helps :)

Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

@hoofbeats,

A "hiatus" is a good way to put it, since I don't think we are really allowed to resign. My adrenal glands are shot from stress due to my health, and I have not done any fighting for about a year now either. I feel strongly that it is okay to take a rest. I am very sorry you were deceived like that. It is hard, if not impossible, to trust again. Narcs are very attracted to us as you know. I made a friend here who turned out to be one and used me so badly my stomach started bleeding. I have heard that an empath who has been badly hurt can become narcissistic in self-defense, and I even see that in myself once in awhile when I get really angry, another indication that my circuits are fried and I need a rest!

I have been friends outside the forum for a few years now with 3 people I've met here, one of whom is an advanced light warrior. I told him what was going on and he took care of it yesterday. It was wonderful last night feeling and seeing no darkness coming from that corner of the room and seeing nothing come through. He has done this before and it's always worked but eventually, they've always come back in. This time he enlisted a lot of outside help, and he found out who was doing it to me as well. It made perfect sense and is too long a story for this thread, which is supposed to be about Stevie's serious problem anyway, so I will shut up now.

It's nice to have another female light warrior on the forum! There used to be 4 of us who would admit to it, and I was the only female. Glad to have you. :-)

Cheshire Cat

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
Hi Cheshire Cat
Unfortunately my "Paranormal" stuff is only visible to me.
The webs usually don't come out if my husband is there. As of late though they are stronger and braver. I hate the thick black ones so that is what often gets thrown out to scare me. (epic fail!) The other night they were running up and down the master bedroom hallway and across the opening. He walked right through them, NOTHING?
All this has been an ongoing struggle for the last 2 yrs.
All of a sudden ghosts/spirits started to appear in my bedroom on a regular basis. Although one time while in the living room a woman carrying a picnic basket came out of my bedroom went in the office and puff - gone.
I fought this tooth and nail. This absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt could NOT be happening. I was diehard scientific based non believer. Not at all spiritual, although I did believe there was obviously some sort of higher power.
I denied and objected until I couldn't. Later in life, no reason for this to happen now.
I still can't explain it but "it's happening"! I test myself all the time; was it a shadow? Something that could be mistaken? Was I dreaming? No, No & Never.
I have basically NO imagination and it just would not be possible to dream up something that was always different, never familiar and always unexpected.
I'll have to check on testing for "blood levels of neurotransmitters". I have never heard of it but sounds interesting.
Not meaning to sound like a know it all when I say I am the family doctor, psychiatrist, phycologist and medication researcher. I am the "go to" first... I have had some years to learn plus it fascinates me. Again not bragging but I go to the doctor prepared and partner with him/her. Many times I have advised doctors for myself as well as others and they have accepted it. This applies to medications including psychotropic. I have been in so/too many drug studies and seen too many specialists (Until I finally found out it was Fibromyalgia). Many people with Fibro are taking an enormous about of drugs. This leads to that and that leads to this and so on. I take the Wellbutrin and Advil; that’s it. I rarely take anything stronger for pain. I have a strong tolerance for pain medication. I have to take a hardy dose to even feel the effects.
I have literally taken max dosage of Wellbutrin for decades. I tried to get off it about a half a dozen times because I hate relying on medication. Every time it would be fine until it was out of my system then it would be a slow downhill until I realized it and by then I didn't care. So… I accepted the fact it works when all other meds have caused serious side effects. Yes, it is not a drug to play around with (if you like your brain). Dopamine and Norepinephrine target the "feel good" and "well being" centers when Serotonin is at an acceptable level.
Belief me if only it were that simple I would not keep taking it.
Another thing that comes into question is stroke.
A couple Christmases ago I had what the doctors felt was a TIA (mini stroke). It was so totally different there is no comparison. I was aware at all times that I was having hallucinations etc. I can recall every detail. I was well aware of what was reality but I also knew what wasn't. It was just that simple.

I just read further down the posts. I am so sorry to hear you are ill. It is wonderful that you have taken the time to try to help me. Believe me the support I am receiving from everyone right now is far advanced from all I have learned in the last 2 yrs. Not to diminish the help others have given me prior. It took Baby Steps to get this far.
I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE’S HELP from day one.
So play nice no fighting lol. I need you both.
This is an odd place for me to be because I have ALWAYS been the caretaker and peace maker. The helper not the helpee.

response to womanwhowwalks & hoofbeat in the works
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
I feel special to have all this help. I know how difficult it is to share knowledge and experiences.
Just want to thank everyone again
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
Maybe funny?¿
I have been told I was (what I thought I heard) a Light Walker now I am wondering if it was Light Warrior LOL
The ones (111) gave me a clue
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
Another pause for the cause
I have also been told I was a Medium?¿ That would be fun? I think
I can't resist trying to help That's why everyone does call me a Bleeding Heart LOL
Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Hi Stevie,

I also have Fibromyalgia, and ran a 3 city support group for the Arthritis Foundation for 14 years, until I got too sick to drive to my own group. Later I found out the reason I was getting worse and worse was because my Fibro was secondary to Lyme disease. I am no drug expert, but have studied to be a Naturopath, though I did not finish, since it is illegal to practice in my state. 

I cannot prove it, but I think empaths are likely to be more prone to Fibromyalgia than average. I know we are 7 times more likely to become addicts of some kind. Some Indian tribes consider Fibro a gift from God and confer automatic Shamnhood on those who get it (from Dr. Devin Starlanyl's big book on Fibro). It does make your sympathetic nervous system much more sensitive, so you pick up a lot more from your environment that others are able to ignore, for better or worse. This was a great advantage throughout most of human history, but now it is a sensory disaster with all the overstimulation in our society. (Highly recommend Dr. Jeffrey Bland's "Fibromyalgia: Stone Agers In The Fast Lane".) 

I am very relieved to know you are so well informed about the drugs you take. I have seen how Fibro patients react to tiny doses of drugs, so I worried when I saw you had Fibro. I never take more than 1/4 dose of anything to start with, and would have been dead long ago if I had taken full doses of several things I've reacted to, one of which was Wellbutrin. The lowest dose caused euphoria to the point of delusion, an almost complete lack of sleep, night terrors, and finally hives and anaphylactic shock. That was mild compared to some other drug reactions I've had though. 

Withdrawal will always cause a rebound depression, since your brain has not produced it's own neurotransmitters in a very long time. Withdrawal from benzos peaks about 8 weeks after the drug is totally out of your body, and can last for years after that, something I did not learn the first 3 times I went off benzos, which caused me to go back on them, thinking the w/d symptoms were Fibro symptoms. It takes even longer for anti-deps to leave the body. Now that I know this, I will stay off, since it gets harder to withdraw each time you try....due to the kindling effect. My drug is now causing the very symptoms it was meant to prevent, and has recently been proven to cause dementia, so I felt I had to try to get off, despite my doctor being totally against my trying to go off it, given my predicted life span. Doctors are now refusing to prescribe benzos as well and some countries have banned them. I don't think there is any danger of that happening with your anti-depressants though. 

I wish I had some helpful ideas for the spiders, etc. but I will leave that to those who've dealt with these things successfully before. My only help has been from someone else who has done it, since my own efforts did not work. I wish you the best in resolving this soon. You have good people helping you here with lots of experience. 

Cheshire Cat

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
6 months ago
899 posts
I'll keep that in mind @hoofbeats...it was a quick jab...and it looked more like an ant I thot...then a lunge...and a nip.....I didn't feel any venom....just the contact as it nipped....then it was gone...So they're feeling threatened and are 7nderstanding who may be the threat...lol...but that's part of this I think....taking a few hits to help someone....i don't want to hurt them....just move em out somehow.....anyway...I'm no expert as I have never come up against anything like this and I'm annoyed cause i can't go check it all out...lol...and help more...I do know when I connected with this thread I felt a lot of...upheavel....and heard a bit of panic...someone told me in a VERY loud voice....THEY HAVE TO GO!!!....I'm told your helpers are young and in need if a bit of help to guide you @just-stevie...they ARE there...and all of us here as well...and we had a tiff is all...it's inevitable that ppl have misunderstandings....lol...we are no exception to the rule...lol
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
Cheshire Cat
Thank you for the info very interesting!
Fibro must be my "gift". I have Cherokee mixed in with other stuff
My drug reaction is the opposite.
In much younger days I used Darvon65 (pain med) a few times because it was exactly like taking "speed" for me
A back injury was not responding to treatment. Finally
the Radiologist told my husband to bring me in to the hospital so he could watch as he directly injected. Then he said I have also given her a shot of Demerol that would knock out a 200lb man. Went home laid down couldn't stay there. I got up and cleaned the whole house. It still hurt but I didn't care. LOL
Morphine drops my blood pressure so low the nurses in the hospital freak out. So not funny (but it is I laugh inside)

Long line of addiction tendencies in my family.....
I have absolutely no inclinations whatsoever to indulge.

Have you tried Ateril for sleep?
The three primary ingredients in Alteril are L-Tryptophan (turkey day sleepy), Melatonin and Valerian.
If you do don't get the new and improved version. It lacks sticking to the basics

I have had great success with a well versed Acupuncturist. Unfortunately I moved.

From what I have read about Lyme disease it sounds pretty daunting. Only maintenance treatment with antibiotics but no cure.
I am so sorry your illness is fatal. You apparently are handling it bravely.
Sometimes I get a read from written word.
I am not getting a feeling of hopelessness, or even fatality at this juncture. I sense you are very strong most of the time albeit; far too much has been dealt to you. It would not be abnormal to have "giving up" days. I hope you have someone you are comfortable with for venting.
I can't explain why but I don't sense fatality; at least for quite a while. I hope I am right and I hope I haven't offended you by taking such liberties.
Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Hi stevie,

    I take massive amounts of L-tryptophan, since genetic tests showed I have trouble converting it to serotonin. Melatonin keeps me awake! Valerian does not work for me at all. I take L-theanine and Natural Calm too. I also take a lot of Seriphos to lower cortisol and never would have made it this far without it, since withdrawal has caused my cortisol to soar. I am sleeping pretty well now considering the high cortisol, except right after each dosage cut. I have another cut tomorrow night, and it takes about 4 days for the cut to hit me. I do a cut every two weeks and have been doing it for 11 months now. 

   I've had two psychics tell me I will live "well into my 80's", so you may be right. I hope they are wrong, since I've wanted to leave for a very long time, like yesterday! I am allergic to all of the antibiotics that kill Lyme, but that has turned out to be good, since it has been found that 15% of the bugs are always persisters that become stronger with treatment and wreak havoc when the antibiotics are stopped. I had herbal treatment for four years with the most studied herbal protocol, one proven to beat the antibiotics at killing Lyme by research at our own NIH.  It was just too late after 21 yrs. of misdiagnosis, and there is too much damage. Many patients say the initials of Lyme Disease really stand for living death. The suicide rate is 26%, so that gives you some idea of how hard it is to live with. 

    The only thing I worry about at this point is outliving my husband, which would be a disaster since I have no family and live in a place where you cannot function without driving. I only have 2 friends who live here, after being housebound for so long, and they both work about 80 hrs. a week or more. It would be up the creek w/o a paddle. I've been sick since I collapsed in my office in 1986, and was put on terminal disability in 1994, am now on social security as I am 66. My spouse is 69, so we are both old fogies. ;-)

   I am not offended at all, and appreciate your insights. It is nice of you to care, when you are being tormented by all of these apparitions. I pray it will be resolved soon. I have asked my friend who got rid of my problem to look at this thread if he has time. I hope he does.

Namaste,

Cheshire Cat

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts

Cheshire Cat

I understand wanting to take "early leave"

I would probably hop on that bus if I didn't have so many people needing me. It's not ideation. It is just this life on this plane is much too violent and self serving. There doesn't seem to be a purpose or any sign of improvement in sight.

OK, SO....I prefer to use the terminology "BABY BOOMER" LOL

If you ever want to chat please feel free to PM me

Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
Hi womanwhowalks and hoofbeats

You two are great! So happy to have your help

YES there was a panic cry
"they have to go!!"

I am very interested in what gifts you both have and how it all works. It is fascinating.I hope one day I discover if I have a true gift and how I fit in somewheres. So I don't get myself in trouble again trying to "help" LOL

I will get back with a time for Monday or Tuesday. I am glad you mentioned time difference because I am Eastern

Remember I said they were subdued the other morning
Well they had their nap...
Last night I sensed something and woke. I poked my head out from under the covers and came FACE to FACE with the BLACK THICK WEBS I HATE as they danced around in front of me. I felt sick! I went back under the covers.

There are some differences but I can't say improvements
The man is still trying to reach me but he is faint. When I close my eyes the background is still there but dimmer and there is a much longer time before the spiders appear behind the sheer billowing curtain. At this point the man's head fights it's way through.
The webs are just as strong and active but more intense and concentrated in some areas and diminished or absent in others. ex. the first time I saw them spread across the toilet seat I said "oh come on, you've got to be kidding!". I would turn the light on and they seemed to disappear but they were just hard to see. Now they are gone from there. A weaker presence in the MB hall and M bath but stronger overall in MB.
There is an all consuming barely visible web throughout at all times. There is increased presense of the curtains (or whatever )that cover and billow. When I get near them cause disorientation. There is a gravitational pull. I have gone through it and saw a whole different surreal surroundings.

The man might be 5'7" I only saw a body once
Originally I came across him on a mind travel. At that time he appeared in a hooded robe. He would come forth from the left and sort of inspect me. I felt I was laying on a mobile bed. He would nod to what I perceived as females with hooded robes. They would walk past inspecting me. They understood me. If I asked them to stop and return they would. All of them appeared in and returned to a pod type structure. The man on the left had a separate pod. Some of the females on the right seemed to be sharing a pod. I caught glimpes of partial faces peering out of the pods. I got the impression the male was controling the women. I chided the male to show his face. He would only display partial various views. From that I eventually was allowed to see him completely . He would change appearances often with glasses sometimes facial hair and general distortion. I kept insisting on showing and telling me who he was and what he wanted. That is how I got to this point. Steven king has nothing on me.... LOL
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts

They have Graduated to FRIGHTENING

I woke up about 11:00 p.m. after an hour's sleep. I couldn't go back to sleep. Around 4:00 a.m. My husband woke up and asked if he could turn the TV off. I reluctantly said yes.
As I expected, I saw webs beginning to gather and drip down the walls. The walls are covering with the patterened curtains and starting to billow. They are closing in on me. When they do this wall thing nothing is identifiable. Furniture and all other stuff is either covered or not visable. The bedroom now has the feel of a fun house. No problem, put the pillow over my head before the room fills up. Dead tired now; fall asleep immediately.

An hour later I sensed something. I opened my eyes. Coming in through the sheets I saw several large black spiders. I started batting them away frantically; it is a natural Instinct. They kept advancing. I know they're not really there but seeing is believing. I sit up as shapes are forming. Two are somewhat realistically shaped. I pause to make sure theyre not visitors. No, not even close. The first one wears the shape of a dog. Details are indescribable. The other lays near me. It fashions itself as a baby of sorts. A flash of an old Cupie Doll face then back to random changing. Blurred enough to make identification impossible. The really freaky part is the baby is reaching out to me but they were not the hands of a baby. They were adult hands.
Yeah, ok, I'm out of here.
I grab my pillow and take off for the living room in my fight or fly mode. I turn on the lights. My heart is pounding.

Me 0 the webs 1

Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Hi Stevie,

I consulted my advanced light warrior friend about this last night. He said the spiders are the dark side's standard way of trying to stop people who are starting to wake up to the truth of what is really going on here. That would certainly fit, since you say you did not believe any of this stuff before. It is very important to them that we humans do not wake up en masse, since once we stop being afraid, they lose their food, which is literally our fear and suffering. He said they cannot really hurt you, especially if you can somehow find strength to not fear them. I know that is easier said than done, and I only had one in my room, not hordes. I asked him to take a look at this thread if he had time, but for now, that is what he told me, FWIW. He did get rid of my spider, my dark man, and my portal. He said he did it with help from another light warrior who used to come here a lot, Archangel Michael, and some "detonator seekers" or something like that....I don't remember the exact words. Whatever it was, it worked. 

Cheshire Cat

Paul
Paul
@paul
6 months ago
920 posts

If I may interject because I've been asked to look into this. You seem to have "invited" this dark-magician type of entity when you asked it to show himself to you. People should NEVER invite the darkones into their lives revealing like that. Do not start a dialog, etc... and NEVER take it on as you'd be out of your league. That is what they look for. Also unless you know how or have the right equipment, do not attempt anything like taking it on.  You need the big-guns to get it out of your life. It is true with the right stuff its so easy to get rid of it but in your case, I can't interfere, I've already asked. What I would recommend is that you call on the white light to surround you and your home to protect you whenever this happens. Also if you believe, ask Archangel Michael and his Blue Flame angels to assist. Also changing the vibration of yourself or where this happens will make it unpalatable for it to stick around. Play happy music or even some waltzes non stop. Visualize the white light surrounding you for 5-10 minutes a day and see the difference. It will run away as it can't stand that. Clue: hoofbeats is meant to help here.

Paul
Paul
@paul
6 months ago
920 posts

I will check up and keep asking for permission to intervene but I hear: you must try this first and learn. This is sort of a lesson that must be learned. I'm really on your side here. Hang on have faith help is on the way.

Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
6 months ago
1,269 posts

Thanks Paul. I really appreciate your taking the time to give your input. I have a gut feeling this will work out, despite how it seems now, and in the end will greatly advance stevie on her spiritual road.

Cheshire Cat

Paul
Paul
@paul
6 months ago
920 posts

Cat, True as I feel the same. I do not think @just-stevie is in real danger. Its a lesson to learn and will be stronger for it. 

Hoofbeats
Hoofbeats
@hoofbeats
6 months ago
8 posts

I don't have much time left to type (spent too long writing out my whole life story for Cheshire Cat this morning), so I will try to get a better response in tonight after work.  I am currently working on setting up a time to instant message Just-Stevie over Skype this week some time. We are going to get this stuff out and away from her for good. She's just got to hang in there until we do. Thanks Paul for your input! I agree, I don't think she's in any real danger either, I think they're just trying to scare her/stop her from reaching her potential. I once had it put to me this way by a dear friend of mine who said it was  because of "incipit retaliation" - which basically means they're trying to stop you before you even get started.

Anyways, I hope you all have a wonderful day!

-Hoofbeats


updated by @hoofbeats: 12/02/17 11:24:24AM
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
6 months ago
124 posts
It makes sense. I have heard of the awakening from someone who has been helping me understand and accept that I have a purpose in this life. I am a Light Walker?/Warrior? That this is a time period I have volunteered for in order to spread love & light and help others prepare. That we do not like or want to be here because of the ugliness. This person also speaks to Archangel Michael. I've tried but did not connect. I don't know Angel speak. I don't know or understand enough about Angels. They are still a concept to me.

Maybe that is why I have been bombarded with these attacks. Maybe they fear me.They have never been able to make me fearful. Last night was the closest but even then I didn't fear them. I know none of it is real. They tried through trickery all along but I wised up to that. I told them quite sometime ago I wanted them to leave. We have lobbed back and forth since then.
I am guarded and overwhelmed. I am weary from the attacks. They are disruptive. They want to break me before I learn my strength. They are worried through help and support from others I will figure out what is going on.
OR NOT... LOL

Thank you for your help and concern. It's been a long struggle to get to where I am. I have a long ways to go.'
Just Stevie
Just Stevie
@just-stevie
5 months ago
124 posts

Hi Paul

Hoofbeats has been helping me. It seemed as though it was working. She warned me there might be some retaliation. She was not wrong. Without going into depth to say it has escalated is an understatement.

Last night was what nightmares are made of. I woke up in the middle of the night. I always sense when there is something there and wake up.

I opened my eyes to the usual consumption of the room by virtual motion of the integrated webs. Only in addition to all of the other crazy going on; there were three independant frightening web faces rushing me. The one that has been pursuing me was on the left. There was also one in front and one to the right. I tried to rebuff them by holding up my hand to stop. It was somewhat effective but they would come right back. It was impossible to hold off all three and I retreated to the livingroom and turned the lights on. I returned to my bed after daybreak.

I know they can't hurt me but that does not prevent the fight or flight mode. I am afraid to go to sleep for fear they will come back. I don't know what will happen if I just let them approach me and I don't want to find out.

I am not sure what lesson to learn other than don't get involved. I did not ask for any of this. Visitors just started showing up nightly. I was a firm nonbeliever until I could no longer deny. I still don't understand the how or why. 

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