Projection energies

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
one month ago
252 posts

So I noticed around a particular family, I'd get very unsettled, I knew there were negative energies around them and sometimes emenate from them. What I couldn't determine was, was this my own negativity of them coming through? it used to bother me a lot since I don't like to judge people without reason and usually I just judgejcharacteristics and certain actions before I judge a whole situation or person as a whole.

Anyway I learnt over time, though I already knew this from knowing the family In Some ways and they're relations with others. That they weren't particularly liked for many reasons, some of which I agree with and were understandable and I learnt just how bad it was, that though I didn't mean it, I'd treat them the way others did too because projection was that bad.

And I just couldn't stand being around them because I couldn't determine these energies, over time I met a new family and I have zilch problem with them, some of the kids (personally speaking, I don't think have good discipline/boundaries and etiltiquittes at home etc which I try to teach them whenever they come over or my daughter in my own ways because it becomes a problem for her In other ways) anyway my neigbours don't particularly like them, for obvious reasons and I noticed when they started coming over to mine after having been to theirs I'd pick up these energies and get easily annoyed with them or want them to go home etc.. then I thought I wasn't like this when I first met them, why all of a sudden now, and the both experiences sort of fell In to place and made sense. Something we can meet people we genuinely may not like, sometimes it because we pick up subtle energies from what others opinions and judgements are..

Anyone else ever experienced stuff like this?


updated by @spiritualskies: 07/29/18 06:05:16AM
Kim Eastham
Kim Eastham
@kim-eastham
one month ago
3 posts
My family all the time, husband, mom in law. Takes ALOT to push away the negative feelings/projections. Very empowering when I can, feel like wonder woman. 😁
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
one month ago
32 posts
I totally get off energy like that.. I used to try to be around them but after I had kids and a few tramatic experience I just stopped trying.. forget it, I just end up sick in bed after being around them so there was no point to try anymore anyway. In social settings I was overall more able to deal with them but I would still try to avoid them. Unfortunately everyone finds that I am the person who they can talk to about whatever is bothering them, from assaults to relationships to whatever else.. Been told so many times that I should have been a therapist... No thank you, I couldn't do it.. hard enough that people open up to me privately, I couldn't imagine doing it on a full time basis. Ironically I have been going through therapy for the past 3 years.. my therapist helped me get to the root of the problem with me.. he left the bread crumbs and when I was ready I followed them to find out that I was an empath at the end of December.. still took a couple more months before I was actually willing to accept it in my soul and I would go through a massive awakening process.. I am still struggling at times to understand it, in some ways I wish I could still be fighting it however I like that now I can receive positive energy vibrations instead of only negative ones.. I has also helped me understand the energy better between my twin flame and I. Since meeting my twin flame a year ago I am now having the issue where if he is with someone toxic (that what I call that energy that u feel which makes it so u know that there just isn't something right or they are emotional vampires) I feel that negative energy and end up sick from them.. when it first started happening I couldn't understand it at all.. I just knew that the person was going to push us apart and I was sick, I tried to convince myself that I was over thinking this and that I was making myself sick with worry only a few hours after he was done seeing this person I was feeling better. I found out that it was a therapist who he had just started to see after we had started to see each other, he liked how much seeing mine was effecting me in a positive manner and wanted that same healing power also only his I found out months later was the one who caused our seperation (those who don't know what a twin flame is, u have a extremely strong energy vibration with this person as your souls recognize each other. Not everyone has one and for those who do there is only one who may not be either old enough to have the vibrations with or not even on earth at this point in time. The two soul are like yin and yang, they complete each other. Where they are whole soles on their own, once together they join to make the bigger soul one. There is a telepathic connection that comes between the two souls and a bond where u can feel each other's emotions, hear thoughts and are even able to astro project to each other. There is usually a big barrier between them. Age.. distance... Emotional damage... The journey to union is not simple or easy, one or both is running away from the other because they are mirrors of each other feelings. It brings alot of emotional crap out.. when the one runs they both go through emotional hell however the one who is further along with the spiritual awakening gets the majority of the pain.. that pain sets of emotional and spiritual growth in the person resulting in healing of them and through the connection their twin.. I have grown and changed so much in the past 3 years. I have also hurt unlike anything else during our separation. The longest it has ever lasted is 7 long miserable weeks but even a couple days without your twin in your life feels likes weeks. This is the hardest relationship and not something I would want anyone to ever go through. The passion and desire is what a lot of people get lost in thinking that this would be a wonderful relationship and yeah when we are together it is intoxicating but there is so much pain involved with it also. So people I have talked to say that they have been on this journey for as long as 20 years before union. There was one who said it took them 40 years
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
one month ago
252 posts

I swear I do spell check before I post lol.. I think my eyes need an upgrade lol

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cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
one month ago
32 posts
(sorry it posted before I finished) before they found union. Trust me it is not something you want to go looking for.)
Even during our seperation I was still able to know when he was seeing his therapist. After my spiritual awakening and I another to him that I was an empath we were talking about his therapist and I found out exactly what kind of damage she had caused us I told him that what she was saying wasn't right. She was so toxic to him, to us. He wanted to know what I meant by us and I let him know that I was getting sick every time he would see her, he has never returned back to her, cancelled any and all appointments with her as soon as I told him.. it hard nothing to do with me telling him that she was out to lunch but with that he was upset I was getting sick through our bond when he would see her..
I don't see anything wrong with u sheilding yourself from toxic people. I did it long before I knew the why, it helps save me from the drain they cause. I don't make it as a rude thing, I am polite to let them know that I have other plans. I am lucky enough that my kids overall avoided toxic people as well.. what I didn't realize is that my son is an empath as well, I always knew he was sensitive but I never put it all together plus he has Aspergers so I didn't realize that they can be both. Since my awakening he opened up to me that he swore I was in pain, he is now an adult living in another part of our country and couldn't understand how he was feeling my emotions. I validated everything he is feeling is true and he isn't crazy like he thought he was. He doesn't know that he is an empath. Not ready yet to learn but he knows to protect against tell information others what he can do and that there is nothing wrong with him. He also knows that any answers he needs I have and when he is ready to talk to me to find it out.
I don't know if this helps u.. I hope so..
Most important thing is that u need to protect yourself first so u can be able to guide your daughter. See if she feels the same way around these kids.. who knows maybe she has issues also but is trying to be nice.
Good luck
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
4 weeks ago
252 posts

I love and adore my tf, especially with what he has to put up with. No one really understands a tf connection though, I can talk about it here and feel perfectly normal, but dare I mention anywhere else, well I'd be called crazy for sure. Sometimes I put myself through mental torture because he doesn't like others knowing about his empathy and I try my best not to tell, and haven't done to anyone other than those of already mentioned.

I feel like my guide knows something and is preserving it as a secret and understands, likewise if I'm correct he shared a secret with me too and publicly crushed his own ego, that's how humble and sweet he is. I hope for our sake it's not that long before union, sometimes when I feel his emotions I know them because I've been on that side and if it's all true, he won't settle till he has what he wants and is meant for him. He said I held his entire life in the palm of my hands, a life he helped bring to existence. I have to take a back seat and let everything I've been sharing with him sink in, I said to him a long time ago I was extremely competitive where spiritual passions are concerned, but I never ascend to leave them behind, I kind of have a bad habit of pushing people to find they're true potential and then allowing myself to fail, for a couple weeks I've felt a constant heat on my upper back, varys in intensity but it's like right between shoulder blades?? and it's one my guide used to talk about too.. when he reaches that too I'll be waiting for him however long it takes..and if he already has yayyyy!

And I kind of believe that a bad shaman had been trying to separate us a very long time ago, his vibrations changed cause people.dint realise no matter what the situation in life we're not god, no matter how close we can be or how much spiritual abolity, his decree is his decree, and people trying to play with that is like asking for trouble , like I've don't that too but I know my limits and God knows I can be trusted so I get little mini tests and I don't back out when I know, I've been trusted with certain aspects of my empathy and all the stuff I've grounded I feel I've been granted permission to use those to manipulate and Change vibrations of others, for the intent of good and light work purposes.. as strange as that sounds... But no one wants to believe in it, so I'm still loopey, they can't hurt me in the places I've permanently healed, but I can also fake those too and I'd prob look a pro at it.. and that's a while new topic on introvertdness and emotional numbness.. but I'll bombard tf with that one day.. sowwy 😊

This might sound wrong or sinister to some but when I say trust me, I mean it.. On the topic of my daughter, dear life 🙄.. so I always say when you learn and understand to ground one aspect of something, and it can be the same thing continuously, it will keep manifesting in new forms. Like anger again.. because the ego knows how to keep manifesting itself in new ways and forms, it can be caused by lots of things and it depends on the person, age, circumstances and how they feel etc, she's learnt which ones are my buttons and she's been pressing them like a pro, internally she's been doing what I do, observing lots of different things about how I treat people, what attention they get, how often, what words etc very minor things and I carried her anger a couple days ago, on the surface she was calm as a cucumber, it was building and building and I can feel myself getting agitated and she knew too then and attempted.to see what reaction shed get, she wiped greasy hands on my arm and I hate when kids do nilly stuff like that, she got told off to use tissue to clean or wash and that very moment that I snapped the energetic bubble burst and I here her thought, 'yes!, I got her'. She's decided to delve into naughty behaviour learnt from others to get praise, praise for the ego, she's competitive and a smart ass, and I don't like rubbing egos where I know what problems it will cause so that's what I'm dealing with now..

Usually people press buttons I don't have cause I am a weirdo and I don't let it show lol.. so it's funny to watch people try and press and get absolutely no wjere,. instead it backfires on them and they just get more frustrated...

And in line with initial post, I don't really care anymore of why I am a certain way, I've just accepted I'm not perfect and if I don't like something/someone I don't have to force myself, I'm human and if certain stuff bothers me or others by it tuff 💩.. Hey what does Ur tf say about the whole separation/union aspects? I haven't really met many people who talk about tf so it's nice to get an insight..

@Kim-eastham sorry I deleted the thread that I started not long ago on tf stuff, it was just too much to go back and change on certain stuff it was mixed with a lot of energies and I hate doing that sometimes, I'll accept it in minor cases but if you have anything you wanted to share/ask, be happy to hear.. and thank you to @krosskelt though he shared a lot of stuff that was helpful..

Have a good day yall


updated by @spiritualskies: 07/23/18 03:46:54AM
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
4 weeks ago
48 posts

I love hearing about other people's TF experiences.

I am currently in a relationship and living very happily with mine, but he is not on a path to enlightenment as of now. I can feel him becoming more.. frustrated? with his life. He doesn't understand why, but it is because he has become comfortable and has stopped his growth, physically and mentally. We are both very big on physical fitness to balance our mental, emotional, and spiritual growth but he has become almost bored with working out and has less interest in things he used to like to fill spare time with. These things started shortly after he stopped reading his books about emotional and mental development. I feel I can't tell him what the issue is, I can only leave bread crumbs and leave him to it. I suppose he will figure it out when he can.

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
4 weeks ago
252 posts
I guess that's something you both should talk about so Ur on par with another, as troublesome a tf journey is on its own its more so when both know each other too well, instead of wanting to hurt, sometimes a natural process where it seems like a bad thing but it generates more live and compassion, as empaths it's difficult cause we can tend to tread around those little things that we know might upset one another but sometimes it's ok to accept to do that, what's a relationship if we cant take a few knocks.. but where relationships that are-empath to non- empath they're more trickier, depending how co-operative/understanding the partner is.. sometimes they won't realise how they can affect a relationship so you just have to do your best on your own part and then just leave it to take affect naturally, it's frustrating but sometimes the only option.

Deep thinkers sometimes need to bring themselves out of that state too, I often find I can go into realities within realities numerous fold and of everyone I'm thinking of situation etc, so some stuff might not always make sense, once you can bring yourself out of that state, you bring your own being to a natural calm, and it puts the break on the empath radar, I do that sometimes by finding my own frequency in wave length whilst I'm in those energies then you get Ur golden chance to feel like you can have a break and equals less solitude.

Speaking of vision upgrades and sound and waves, my cousin visited with her baby, the baby was crying and I did my usual dorky stuff lol, her baby cried and I told her not to pick her up right away cause I wanted to focus on something.. I can here the ego through the cries, when she cries for attention, her sound traveled through the atmosphere and I could see the waves quite literally, Some people when meditate for example will use the phrase OM I use something different, I could see my own phrase taking in from the atmosphere, chnagi g the vibration of her sound waves and I got distracted by something else, so I picked her up and she smiles at me at that exact moment and I just felt her vibe when I asked what's up, she says I just wanted some attention and off she went nap on her mom lol.. yeah my cousin knows I'm a weirdo so she's cool with it..
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
4 weeks ago
48 posts

We do talk through a lot of these things together. But I have a deep understanding that someone else should not impede on another's journey. I say things like "I am excited for you to get back on your journey of being the best version of yourself" ("The best version of myself" is what he calls his personal journey" but i cannot tell him "your issue is -------" I don't think i have a right to direct someone, but i can leave bread crumbs.

He is also an empath and aware but uninterested in working on those traits and abilities as of yet. It is frustrating, but I decided to just continue on my journey and rejoice when he re-joins me on the path again. My current lesson I am working on is "letting go" of others.

That is amazing, what you said about the vibrations and sound waves!

Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
4 weeks ago
862 posts

@spiritualskies:

Although we are all susceptible to reacting to someone based on reputation expectations, your empath radar is pure and is generally not impacted by preconceptions. If you focus on that energy and try to put any preconceptions aside for a minute, what you pick up from their energy is the true story.

If they make you feel uncomfortable, then their energy signature is that of low energy. Earlier in my empath career if someone made me feel anxious or bad around them, then I generally tried to avoid them. And of course, if they are unbearable to be around then you probably should think real hard if you can realistically handle the energy situation at this time. But the lesson I have learned over the years is that quite often people who put off bad vibes individually or as a group are just troubled/damaged souls who could benefit from our help (if we are up to it and able to do so). Once each of us gets more advanced into empath skills we should be able to meet with people and make them feel better by raising their vibration while absorbing their pain emotions and low energy.

At it's core, that's what we are wired to do as empaths. But the decision is always whether you can handle that energy exchange if it is particularly challenging, and whether you are really helping them long term. As an example, I have tried to help people who continue to be in a cycle of misery. I'd meet and do an energy exchange with them to make them feel better. And they would feel better for a day or two and then wouldn't take any responsibility to make changes in their life to do their part to break their cycle of misery. And they would be right back to feeling bad again. We all know the type, right? So in cases like this I have realized over time that if people don't do their part in bettering their lives through necessary change, then I was really not helping them by giving them a temporary day or two of high vibrational energy (at my expense).

And as a final note, I have been reading lately about how some people have past life karma as a person or as a family blood line that is carried forward. These families sometimes have a common disfunction, alcoholism, or chronic illness that is centered around this. It's a very interesting theory because I can identify with this with a lot of families I have known (including my own). And as an empath there are ways we can help families like this break the cycle and rid the past karma. But, they have to do their part and break the habits that contribute to this.

Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
4 weeks ago
48 posts

Hop Daddy:

And as a final note, I have been reading lately about how some people have past life karma as a person or as a family blood line that is carried forward. These families sometimes have a common disfunction, alcoholism, or chronic illness that is centered around this. It's a very interesting theory because I can identify with this with a lot of families I have known (including my own). And as an empath there are ways we can help families like this break the cycle and rid the past karma. But, they have to do their part and break the habits that contribute to this.

Wouldn't helping someone rid themselves of past life or familial karma be over-stepping? I am curious as my family has suffered multiple generations of abuse. Are you referring to helping people break those chains or of some kind of specially energetic work?

Also, I had seen a post that said "be careful who you save, you could be interrupting karma." What are your thoughts on this?

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
4 weeks ago
252 posts
Can I jump in on Ur karma topic?
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
4 weeks ago
48 posts
@spiritualskies

Yes, yes!
Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
4 weeks ago
862 posts

@chezarey:

I think helping someone break the karmic cycle is a very good thing. If someone has a strong opinion otherwise I would be interested in hearing their view. But if you can help someone by lifting their vibration and self-esteem so that they can work on bettering themselves, and their family, I think that's a terrific use of your skills. I believe the key is that we uplift people to the head space where they can fix these issues themselves. 

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts

@hop-daddy sometimes you take the words right out of me lol and I don't know if that's an empath thing or we genuinely just think alike? :)

the post you saw about referring to being careful who you save, we have to remember, karma is just an energy, it exists because people gave it reason to, like an idol, I always say I want to look into this a lot deeper but never get the chance, if anyone has any theories throw em my way please!

usually what creates it is the ego, and the afflictions of daily life we face, sometimes we wish to take matters into our own hands and desire good/bad towards others, for whatever reason that's caused us to feel that way. we assume by investing all the energy of a given situation, we can make it go in to our favour, for when karma comes around to do to others what was done to us, we kinda like to rub the ego and say 'well I did that, and im glad it happened, for what you did to me'. this very sentence, in this moment of time, this is karma itself talking to someone, teaching them something. it means we begin to feel superior and inferior as we keep going through the karmic cycle, for the longer we keep sending that karma out, it will keep coming back. when we understand this on a deeper level and know how it works, and if im guessing we can use karma as an energy to gain what we need, or teach what we need, but it has to be utilised in good faith, intent and with trust.

we cannot know in every given situation whether we ought to use karma, as all these experiences and karmic cycles go, my tf will know what I mean if I just mention a random word like calling, he can piece it together and it will just make sense..

where people in general are concerned, and we don't always know the full story, we can automatically assume either the best or the worst of something, if we feel helpless in a situation and we have had enough, and we're human, how easy is it to say, I wish you go through what I did, either 1) this can be out of vindictiveness, 2)hate, 3) anger, 4)frustration, 5)lack of empathy/sympathy, 6)with bad intent and so forth, and boom that karma goes to do its job. and it might do it many times, until the lesson is learnt. if at the end we realise after hitting that karmic send button, it can change, and we can change how it comes back around, it is the essence that broadens the mind and, experiences, new ways of thinking, creating more peace, love, harmony and so forth, it opens up the heart, and a new perception in life, or a situation, but that doesn't mean we have to keep applying it either to everyone we meet, we just use it for the ones we care about most, but if our guides are not done teaching or god wants to teach a lesson himself, then we find that as much as we try to undo the karmic cycle, it becomes difficult, while certain openings in the past were easily accessible in the past, they are now on a anger scale minimised and have lots of constraints, so where and what karma means to me in a personal situation its like asking for a death wish haha (figuratively)

but stuff like this is totally up my street and I love it.

one girl I spoke to a long time ago on here said she had a lot of karmic debt to pay, you don't have to pay anything, look for the wisdoms, understand what you can of it, what resonates stronger, instead of contemplating on karma as a whole that I did this to so and so and wished this on so and so, and we are  all guilty of, and WE ARE! apologies, if we can then forget about empathy and bring it down to sympathising, and we understand the lesson, karma actually becomes a friend, and its ready to bite me back in the butt cause my tf has just understood something lol... have mercy on me baby!

so this girl I was talking about, all she has to do is sympathise and sometimes place your self not in someone's shoes, that's empathy, but in someone's circumstances, with logic and reasoning, and it can undo all of that karmic debt that's waiting to come back.. and empathy can expand to how much you want to empathise with people, it can be done with the mind, just giving a mere fraction of a thought, some people have been through a lot in ife, and it used to upset me that that I couldn't help them with what they needed help with, I may have stayed silent, no being able to offer any words or encouragement, and it stayed in my sub, probably only thinking of it now and again, so what its like to be mentally abused in some of the ways others were, is why I started acting out like an abuser in how far I could go with energetic work, and other people, thats what solitude can do, so I always say never take alone time  more than needed, was our own energy field is vitalised, use it as you would if you never had empathy at all, like a normal person. solitude can count as meditative isolation and a seclusion process, dangerous without a guide, so im grateful I always have god on my side

so back to answering your main question, have no fear in challenging karma, or someone's karmic cycle, we're not god and if we are changing it to what ever it is that needs changing, wish it on people, it will happen, but bear in mind could we tolerate it in the same way if it happened to us? if there's lessons to be learnt for others then by all means, send it, if the people don't learnt their lessons, They will always wonder why they're getting a beating out of life, and why some have it easy and get through shit easily, is because well the usual stuff i say, about questioning to understand first, then why, judge if we must, but with intent that when karma comes around it was to understand, then we understand the process of why and then we cancel out the judgement.. easy peasy lemon squeezy :)

hope that answers in some way? feel free to challenge anything iv'e written


updated by @spiritualskies: 07/27/18 10:34:13PM
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
It is so interesting that the people who have posted have so much in common with spiritualskies. Your energy has attracted kindred spirits to share their experiences.. I am still new to understanding that I am an empath and am amazed how now that I know what I am how I am attracted to others. The same goes for twin flames.
It is very true, having others who understands twin flames is so helpful. In my life my closest friend and my therapist both now understand it, as they have both been trying to help me through this journey. Others or neutral or extremely negative that I keep allowing my twin back into my life. They don't understand how it isn't a choice but a need at my core to have this person in my life. One is upset because I won't give him a chance, as he has a crush on me. I have given up on trying to explain it because they don't listen anyway. My twin and I have gone through many separations in this past year however I am hoping that soon we will be in union. My twin is going through his spiritual awakening however there are times where he has been fighting it. It took a long time before it finally hit me that he isn't running from me but himself.. all this scares him. On the other hand I have felt his heart beat skip when we were talking about his feelings for me. He only knows that I am an empath and that we have a bond between us.. My twin still doesn't know about twin flames yet.
My therapist believed me right from the beginning about twin flames but he is an empath and pick up on how different this relationship is. My friend took a little longer to believe me.. She started believing when he returned to first time. But at the beginning of our friendship she didn't believe that I knew when I was about to be hurt.. it took a couple of times that I accuracy knew that something negative was going to happen to me and the final push was I knew something big about her that she never shared with anyone. What was even better was that because my son has the same thing I was the first person who actually understood her and never judged her for being different. She could be herself and not have to act a certain way around me to hid it.
In the last 6 months I have found a chat board for twin flame. For the most part I enjoy reading through the stories and the advice. There is one person on there who gives out what I believe is crappy advice. To start with after the amount of posts she has I believed she knew what she was saying however her advice actually push my twin into running and ending up being the longest of our separation. I started to read through more and more of her posts till I realized that she met her twin online through Twitter and they only chatting for a few weeks (just under a month) before someone else told her twin that they were twin flames.. He sent her a nasty message about being a stalker and blocked her.. So when she is taking about taking to him and the wonderful times that they spend together it is all on the spiritual realm. I don't know if this person is or isn't her twin but I do know that having only a few weeks online then 3 years of only spiritual communication is nothing like having physical communication. My twin works out of town so we have spent hours on video chat and when he is in town he will come see me at times. There is a huge difference between when we are messaging vs video chat vs physical contact. I find her advice extremely frustrating now that I realized exactly what experience she has. Also find it interesting that after he blocked her he has never in the past 3 years reached out to make contact. I always thought that them in and out of your life was one of the signs.. at least it is in my experience.. separation can be any thing from a few days to weeks with the longest being 7 weeks.
I also believe in tarot reading and they have helped guide me with my journey. This person shames anyone who uses tarot as a tool for help with their twin flame journey and promotes this one person is being the only person in the world who by looking at a photo and collecting a few hundred dollars of your money can tell if u guys are or are not twin flames. I now talk up against her at times that the person looking for advice needs to take everything and hind in their hear what is true for them. That everyone is different and where at the core twin flames journeys are the same there is so much else that makes their experiences unique to them. Not all advice will be right for everyone. I also let them know that for me I have to get a professional tarot reading because my twins and my energy combine when I am trying to do my own. The tarot gets lost and tries reading both of us at the same time which if he is running then the cards contradict each other. With the 2 different readers I have seen (one mostly but if she hasn't been available I will see the other) I have a 90-100% accuracy rate where it comes to my twin's information.
It is also how I found out about twin flames and that is what made this person so different. My reader asked me to explain what exactly was making it so different and she shook her hear and goes that is why these 2 cards have shown up together so many times in your different readings in your speads. (She pulls intuitively so one might be close to the bottom and the next in the middle.. she is constantly shuffling them also) she told me that I have just explained almost everything on a twin flames check list.. She gave me homework to check out what twin flames were online.. everything just started to click.. it was amazing..
Have your twins had their spiritual awakenings?? Did they fight it or accept it? How long did it take them to go through it?
Do they know they are twin flames? Did u tell them or did they find it out on their own?

The karmic discussion in really cool. My twin told me about an article that he read where science was trying to explain it. It talked about how tragedy is imprinted in our DNA and can effect those born several generations later. Why some of us are more sensitive to pain and suffering and depression than others. That we don't only have to heal ourselves for things that happened in this lifetime but also from lifetimes long ago. It was very interesting to hear how science is trying to explain it. I am pretty sure that my twin is an empath (or at least a strong sensitive) also. My therapist also get the same vibe that the is one when he is connected to me while I am talking about my twin. I suspect that my twin is still fighting that side of him like I used to so he has looked for science to answer his questions. Since meeting me he is trying harder to become more spiritual and has been looking at things that I believe in on his own like crystal healing and wicca. He still isn't sure what or where he believes.
It is so wonderful to have someone who is trying to actually understand what I have researched all my life but wasn't comfortable in actually attempting to connect with until after my spiritual awakening at the beginning of March. With my past for 20 years I had someone who said that they were open to letting me believe in what I wanted to but had a way of making me feel like crap for reading the books about it. They even bought me some of the books for Christmas presents but I would get a look or grunts when I would actually read them. Until recently I was ashamed of ever letting anyone know what I believed in. My closest friend was so surprised when she saw the wicca book I had been reading.. thought that it was a new book.. when she found out that I had the book and several like it for the past 15 plus years and I was just trying to understand it better she wanted to know why I never told her. We have been friends for the past 5 years. Told her that I was made to feel ashamed of it.. I don't tell anyone... She thinks that it is so cool and has given me the strength to start to practice it. I still find it weird to hear me refeed to as a witch but I don't hid it as much anymore. I joined a pagan group that meets once a month for coffee.. It has been very rewarding to be able to meet others and hear their experiences with it. I still have lots to learn.

The talk about our kids pushing button, I am happy to let you know that is 100% normal. Kids are testing boundaries for when they become adults and need to know when to push their views and when to back off. To learn how to stand up for themselves. Us as parents are their guinea pigs to experiment on. I needed help with my kids and my therapist helped me understand that as parents we still need to give them guide lines. Unfortunately mine are victims of mental manipulation and abuse at times. They are instructed to come after me in hopes of making me unstable, I have had to sit down with them more times than I would ever want to admit to and talk to them about how their behaviour is morally wrong and will not be ever tolerated. That if not careful and they keep it up they can be charged and put in jail for abuse.. I know that it doesn't start with them but they have the power to end it. I have also learned how to put up boundaries so the person(s) who are doing the manipulation and brainwashing are losing control of the kids ability to effect me. Normal things that kids do I have to treat differently than the other crap but kids still have to learn there is a line.

I wish everyone the best of luck with whatever they are dealing with...
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
Hey thanks for sharing all of that, it's opened new ideas for me.

This is how some conquer they're demons, we expose one or someone throws us to the sharks haha eventually you just have to learn how to swim or prepare to get eaten alive..

Tf concepts I see lots of views on them and I guess this is the wisdom for me that I never believed in it and I'll share how I wished this journey on everyone and how I expect karma to work, how people who don't want to let go, in a general sense and lots of other weird and wonderful stuff that goes on inside my head
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts
@cat-is-very-broke

My TF and I have followed the 'friends first' journy. I read a description of it to him and he was shocked that it sounded like us. We live together now. It was extremely hard for roughly a year before we dated. I knew since we were 14 he was the one I would end up with. It's such an intense thing that I felt 'in my bones.'
I do not think he has had an awakening yet, but we are not sure. He fights what he is a lot which results in bouts of depression and mood swings. I have told him he is my twin flame once and 'we have at least been together in past lives.' He didn't really know what to say. He doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about these things but believes in energy.
Would you mind linking me the TF message board? I'm really interested in checking that out
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
Spiritualskies..
Are you ok?
Sounds like you have had a really ruff day. I have had my fair share of them in my life. I have blocked all contact with my soul mate except through lawyers and the courts. He changed so much and not in a good way..
He does still have power over me to hurt me however I am working on taking it away from him. It will still take a while before it is all gone but since meeting my twin I am getting better at taking away my soulmates power.
I am here if you need to talk.

The chat board is on several different topics but u can pick the areas that u want to follow. It is on Quora where I get advice and give others help.

I get the fighting part that your twin does. For almost 44 years I fought being an empath.. I haven't decided yet if I liked it better before I knew I was one and went my spiritual awakening or now . I still struggling with it. My twin, closet friend and therapist all feel that I am doing better now. I still have ruff days and get lost in all the emotions of those around me. I suspect that with time I will get better at acceptance. The one thing that shocked me is that since I went through my spiritual awakening and have done more healing that my twin has felt it and he told me that my energy is helping him to heal, he doesn't know how or why but he knows that it has something to do with our bond. I never believed that one twin can heal from the other until I saw it working. I may not have actually told him that name of what we are called but we have talked about all the things we feel and how we can feel each other's energy.. How the bond works. I am a very open and honest person with those I care for and love, if I have something bothering me or making me happy I tell the other person if I sense they are open to hearing it.

Anything else feel free to ask..
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
I'm cool, I told someone about music how people use it as self healing, it takes much longer, but from the negativity that comes from the lyrics nowadays, by the time they're done listening, damage is already done, to the conditioning of the mind, people be surprised that just cause you can multi task in life with stuff, you can't do that with the mind unless you focus.

I can't fantacise shit all, but I can talk about it, and can live it out as reality, I learnt that gift before I became an empath, took me almost a year or more to crack, and that's too part of the ego mingled with desires and stuff, how I did sure as heck ain't gonna work for others, you have to be a believer it's where the power comes from, I can't teach it because people will try their own ways if they can't handle it or decide to use an alternative higher power I'm afraid of what that pressure can do to the mind..

And some of my friends get really annoyed for me sharing my gifts, because they know and I know too, that people milk off of me and try passing off as their own, well can try but when people fail to see results, they might start asking for refunds or slating materials lol

That's what's ticking me off and every one had to have a taste of it.. doing the one thing I do best, drama queen
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts

Self heal I still do through music, those walls are really tough to bring down so back to my high standards again till some people get it

What is it Ur sm's doing btw, and how do they manipulate the kids? 


updated by @spiritualskies: 07/28/18 09:17:51PM
pinkypie
@pinkypie
3 weeks ago
4 posts

you always remind me of stuff I want to talk about sometimes, this is my first post on here in a loooooong time, I have loads of crazy stuff on tf numbers, though I don't believe in tf stuff either but its what I always get told, whenever I try to enquire about it, I don't do readings etc im quite crap at them but I have had tarot readings done and they do tell me I have a tf, so since I was sick of believing in this I thought about the numbers and came up on what I thought of them, im muslim and sometimes I hide too because of some of the stuff I believe in and yeah my partner thinks im nuts  too, so don't be afraid to be who you are, that's what were here for right? to uplift each other and maybe someone can knock some sense into him about all this empath stuff, he's joined elises fb page but I doubt he'l ask any questions, just wants to understand what we talk about, so since ur so firey spiritualskies  don't hesitate to unleash some of that on him lol and yeah its ok to tweak stuff and its gonna rile him when he sees ive joined here.. Oops :/


updated by @pinkypie: 07/29/18 06:19:10AM
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

I understand, @cat-is-very-broke. My SM is a narc. I have not spoken to him in many years and I still have PTSD episodes of what he used to do to me. It bothers my TF sometimes because he thinks I act like he hurts me. I always have to explain that I went somewhere else in my mind. He's getting it, so lately he will remind me he doesn't abuse me. It makes me come back, because I realize it hurts him when I get lost.

@spiritualskies It's going to be really hard for a long time. I don't know how it works for others, but, for me.. After we realized we had more than just friend feelings for each other, the following year was hard. He would continually "ghost" me ever few months or so. Sometimes block me on social media (which, was one of the only ways we talked because he lived in another state.) The last time he did, it lasted roughly 5 weeks. During the time he was gone, I gave up. I accepted everything and started picking up my own pieces and putting them back in order. I started dating, started going out more with friends. I got to the point where I only thought about him once a week t'word the end.
Even when he started talking to me again, I didn't let the cord roots take hold. I kept my distance and kept being by myself. He visited his home state and drove 6 hours to come see me for a few days. When he left, I didn't shed a single tear. I said to myself "And this is the last time I will ever see him. He won't be back, and that's okay." He looked like he was going to cry on his drive back.
He drive all the way back 2 days later. Said he wanted to be serious. We've been together ever since.

pinkypie
@pinkypie
3 weeks ago
4 posts
Some of the stuff you guys share, I just get the impression it's cause there's a lack of communication between some of you.

Have to remind each other, I think all empaths lose themselves in head space we all do it sometimes in our own ways for general people too.

Maybe you tell them that and they'l bear it in mind.

And one of the toughest parts can be sometimes couples are just anal about hiding it from each other cause they never wanna show they're weaknesses, I don't like that word anal lol I've used it a few times and it's not my usual vocab, and can anyone explain to me why some empaths use double repeated words? It happens to me all the time and I seen it happen to others.. don't get it?
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts

https://mirror-of-my-soul.com/tag/twin-flames-islam/

here's a blog I found once and some of the theories raised in it are some that I personally had around twin flames, its what gave me some belief in perhaps that I did begin to believe in it, and ever since I have, actually started seeing the number 11, 111, 1111 continuously though I do not search for these numbers or pay much attention. I never experienced this last year, but only recently. and my daughter has a connection to these numbers in her DOB

any thoughts on this?

Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts
I'll look into this link. I have noticed 11's and 22's for the last year or so, but I've only recently become mindful of it. When I look back, 22's have followed me almost my whole life, which is usually accompanied by a 1 or 11. Well, my time of birth is 2:11 am. But when the 22's started appearing was when I met my boyfriend.
The first 22 I can remember is the street I lived on from 6 yr old to 15 years old. I met him when we were around 14.
And now I noticed, I lived on another street called 22, in a different city, when I finally met him in person.
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts

How did you meet? I see a lot of combinations around 2's too.. what do you think they mean for you? Usually I'll look it up in Google what it means, if it doesn't resonate anything I try searching from what information is available to explore more, I usually land on something that will give some hint towards it

From what I've read it usually means balance, relationships and miracles etc.. I don't actually have any significance of seeing 2's in any combination prior to my awakenings, just maybe since this year when I came on here and people started talking about numbers it caught my attention, but yeah sometimes it can just be an acliniation of higher powers informing us that perhaps some miracles can happen, but they're small, to people in general it's nothing but coincidences. For people with a consciousness they see it and it strengthens the belief and continues to pull them towards a higher power like god.

Like one of my friends I do some trialling with, she will mess around with energies to see what she can do with them, yesterday she had me worried she was gonna do something stupid, though I know in my gut she wouldn't but I know what she's been through and I'd hate to think she'd do anything nilly to hurt herself and I ignore it so I messaged her, turns out she was just playing around and got me where she wanted.  


updated by @spiritualskies: 07/30/18 04:41:03AM
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts
I do the same thing. I found something about a life path that means I am really good at manifesting reality, which is true.
A few months ago my mom saw a physic who told her a few numbers were asociated with her. 17 and 22. It was obvious to her 17 was for her. At first she thought 22 was for my sister, but the more they thought about it together the more they noticed weird 22's with me.
But, overall, I just feel if i see 11 or 22, rarely 33's, I feel I am going the right way.
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
33 I only have two personal theories on one being it's the highest number in my religious faith, it's a number associated jesus- my love and it has a heavenly reality, 33 is also the highest degree where illuminati and masonism is concerned, though I don't focus on those it's usually an indication your either being and trialled by a higher power being god, saints, guides, good people, angelic realities etc or the likes of opresseorrs, narcs, magicians, with craft, spirits, Satan etc.. like yin Yang, black and white, good Vs bad, etc it's the balance that needs to be found.

Indeed things can manifest, but if it's towards people of higher consciousness we can't always have that hold, it can be changed, maniplualted, due to being in what we call 'awake'. Might sometimes be not our selves manifesting something but our guides too, they have the ability to change a situation, depending on their spiritual power/ability can make manifestations appear, why people start calling them saints and associate them with miracles, the more pious they are the higher and greater they can make something to manifest, someone who uses spirits to make these manifestations appear and these are like the hocus pocus saints with some level of good, will become frustrated with why nothing seems to be going in their favour, guides battle it out between them and try to change each others light, just like we do as lower level ones, usually people who don't keep an open mind begin to battle it out between them in competition, puffing up their egos and devils, but if some candidate that without becoming jealous and envious and with sincerity to uplift each other then they continue to ascend, they both become teachers pets, the real guides begin to see this as they ilwill be told on the preserved tablets then they have greater authority over them as orotectots.. haha if last night was anything to go by my guide said he gives up in us, but he can't, like we have people we get assumed to, because etheyre always tecahing us something, they have to go through that process too in the lielfe that surrounds them..

Haha hope that makes sense.. sorry for the ramble, just some people have been asking about guides too so I thought I'd expand my ramblings..
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
Jesus according to our beliefs, didn't die, he was raised to the heavens very much alive, if that has any connection to anyone or to mean anything, just means that path of sainthood through constant trials in life only way to know if anyone ever achieved sainthood is after death, why their bodies remain preserved. And I usually see that about a special friend.
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
I don't actually understand the whole number thing but I have read that 11 and other wierd things are between twin flames. Both my kids were born on 11th of different months. The place I moved into has 11 as part of the address. I knew someone who lived in this exact spot 7 years ago and their marriage was broken at the time however they fixed it in this place. The minute I realized that this was the exact same place I knew out of the 10 places that my kids and I looked at this was the one where I could heal. After a few weeks of messaging with my twin we met in person on Aug 11 which is my other closest friends birthday. My closest friend has twins who I am like an aunt to. They were born on the 11th also.. They are exactly 10 years younger than my youngest because they all share the same birthday.
Other interesting things about my twin and I is that there is a good chance that my and I at least seen each other in high school. We lived an hour apart in a rural area and he would come to my high school for sports to play again our teams and for track and field. I went to his high school for school dances. We don't remember each other but that doesn't mean we didn't see each other.
If you use my maiden name mine and my twins the initials for the first and last name are reversed. Mine would have been C.B and his B.C.
We have both almost died and the life saving surgeries were exactly the same. Only his was at birth and mine was when I was 39.
We have been gone through extremely crapy experience and were broken when we met. We are healing but there is no way we will ever be truly healed from all the damage, however I don't believe that will stop us from finding union. Neither of us believe in God but we both believe in spiritual energy. (Another first)
There are a bunch of other wierd things like that where as anyone else I had never had anything in common with anyone I have ever dated or my soulmate/estranged husband.
There are a lot of other similarities between us also.

I am not worried about understanding the numbers at this point, I just found it interesting how I have so many 11's in my life and how many things him and I have in common..

With my soulmate I never had any of those interested things with him.

Take care everyone
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

Numbers are extremely interesting to me. They mean different things for different people. You can use numerology, historic symbolism, or angel numbers, etc. It's about what meaning/interpretation resonates within you.
33's and 3's in general are not inherently evil numbers. You can relate the number to the holy trinity.

3's and 33's, to me, are amazing. I have always had a "trinity" in my family - my mom, sister and I. We are all best friends.
I have had 3 serious relationships, all with Sagittarius, 2 being soul mates.

My "given" name's numerology comes to 11. My parents were not married when I was born, so until i was 6 (when they did finally get married) I was given my mom's last name.

I believe 11's are healing/beginnings - but I don't think they have significance in times of the day or dates. I do think if you happen to look at a time or if a timer is counting up or down and you happen to look at a repeating number it has significance but mostly like a "hey, pay attention."

Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

cat_is_very_broke "] I am not worried about understanding the numbers at this point, I just found it interesting how I have so many 11's in my life and how many things him and I have in common.. With my soulmate I never had any of those interested things with him. Take care everyone

This is wonderful and highly important. Shouldn't let what someone tells you is right, become right for you.

pinkypie
@pinkypie
3 weeks ago
4 posts
Awe, what kinda things you have in common?

What you said about your kids being brainwashed don't worry about that, kids overstep boundaries and stuff all the time, sometimes it's the norm, I know a few kids from a healthy presumably normal background and I gotta be a pain and look like a baddie to all my neighbors cause I have to teach their kids manners and discipline when they come over to ours, sometimes being too soft and lenient can damage they're understanding.. my husband does it all the time, he's very compassionate towards kids yet he needs learn that always trying to teach positivity doesn't always get you any favours..

And where I do know a friend who has a close relative with children from abused backgrounds the family dynamics impact they're understanding and how behaviours influences how that are towards other children or in they're development as part of growing up.. the woman is pretty narcy, but you'd never suss it, people post and share what they like to give an illusion of the life they live or want others to think they live, what goes on behind closed doors people will be surprised.. I'm pretty blatant and don't like to put my laundry out, if I feel I need to I do it with humour, and sometimes it is just that, why I never let him in that part of my life because it's all the freedom I have to express whatever I want without being scrutinised for it all the time.. and what I share with people ain't that bad, but it's like when we don't know how to keep outlet egos in check people can be controlling and the person won't even realise... Do you think there's a link with the different number combinations of 11's? I'm not really faffed about number unless people are interested then I don't mind exploring them
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

pinkypie: Do you think there's a link with the different number combinations of 11's? 

I mean, it is said that repeating numbers are just.. multiplied. Whatever your significance with 1 or 2 or 3 is.. when the number is repeated it just lends more "power" or "energy".. like a multiplier.

If we're speaking in terms of numerology the numbers are 1 through 9, 11, 22, and 33. So if you see 333 the number should be added as 3+3+3=9.

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
What do you think they want to draw attention to @chezarey?

Yeah I kind of agree they are healing numbers, sometimes healing through people, events, understandings, etc

I'm seriously gettingannoyed with this, I keep taking on energies constantly having like new understandings and mini wakening s all the time, I can't switch it off.. how or why is this happening? I have a few guesses, maybe it's linked with the soul/light work I've been doing to the people I was assigned to for unknown reasons, my sensors are blocked again and I think I've taken on someones energy, like I'm reading stuff I'm just not getting it..

Yesterday I spoke with a friend late at night, and after sometime I saw a vision of myself inside her heart, just comfortably happily meditating within her, I though about it some and it meant I've been hiding in her heart a long time, the heart has a mind of its own, so I always know what her heart needs and not what it wants , and I cater to both, same way just as her heart is connected to the rest of her body, I connect and communicate with all aspects of it..

I'm trying to focus on reaching to her conscious level but I don't really know how, maybe she can help me out? .. my soul governs her whole body, in grounding and taming, protecting and comforting, I think she's doing the same to me too not knowing if she's aware of it, I haven't raised it with her yet..

My guide did this to me past week, trying to ground something what we couldn't separate from..

If I sensed my guide again, maybe guides have a number too? He basically said give up in these two?! Wonder what that meant.. but they can't give up they're tied by a pledge..

Can you share some stuff about the holy trinity? I'm interesting in hearing more, I love hearing it from people rather than looking up, sometimes I find comfort In what other people's perceptions are and what they're journeys mean to them..

Hope you don't mind sharing.. can inbox if you want too..
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

spiritualskies: What do you think they want to draw attention to @chezarey? ...  Can you share some stuff about the holy trinity? I'm interesting in hearing more, I love hearing it from people rather than looking up, sometimes I find comfort In what other people's perceptions are and what they're journeys mean to them.. Hope you don't mind sharing.. can inbox if you want too..

I am not Christian or Catholic so I do not know a lot about the Holy Trinity. Google says: 

Wikipedia:

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (LatinTrinitaslit. 'triad', from Greek τριάς and τριάδα, from Latintrinus "threefold") holds that God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons or hypostases—the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit 

On a personal level, 3 is one of my favorite numbers. It is strong and very stable. If you think about a triangle, you cannot push on the sides of it and have it collapse - like a square would.
The saying "good things come in three's" or "third time is the charm" and the karmic "what you send out comes back to you three fold"

Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

One could also go as far as to say humans consist of a trinity. The mind, the body, and the spirit.
There is always the trio of friends in popular movies and video games.

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
That's cool, and yeah I suppose your right in some ways.. what led you to your conclusions?

one thing strange that happened to me during my awakenings, and I've never been someone whose ever actually done stuff like this, like I've always had more friends that weren't from the same faith as me more comfortable to be around, I guess wanting to understand but never questioned. I have friends on my FB who always shares stuff from her Catholic faith, usually I always like some of the stuff she shares because I understand it from a different context..

But I don't like to offend anyone, I'm seriously open minded and nor wish to make anyone feel I impose my beliefs on them..

I just like talking about this stuff.. anyway at my docs there was always a Bible in the reception waiting area and whenever I had a reason to go I'd always want to pick up and read, my fear was I wouldn't understand it and it felt wrong, because I was made to feel that it was wrong, that my own beliefs would somehow be over rided. I read few pages anyway and wanted to read more .. but stopped at that, what I've always noticed though was whenever I'd be at work, or when I was on my outings, I'd always be drawn to churches, and and where there were bibles left in each room (residential/nursing homes) isld always notice them, even in hospital..

Since I developed the ability to recognise what it is that has control over me whether they be personal demons, or life events, I began to see them as lords, in the sense idols and stuff that has control over me, the more I did this the less hold these things had a hold on me like eating disorders and mental physical abuse etc..

Then I began to recognise in others, and because I still have a strong connection to the Qur'an, though I don't recite much often anymore, I understand it from a whole new light, and in the same way I understand bits and pieces of the Bible where if people want to believe that it was tampered with, I can pick out which aspects of it were tampered with and where it still remains and has its messages from God...

People can challenge me on this if they want.. so long as its a mature adult discussion with open mindedness. Equally people can challenge me.on my beliefs and the Qur'an.. I'm not a preacher though so I don't want anyone to think or feel that way nor do I like to have that persona..
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

@spiritualskies

I understand. That's interesting. I do not know much about the Qur'an. I try to research different religions from time to time because I find them really interesting.

I was raised Christian with strong ties to Catholic extended family. I attended both Christian and Catholic Sunday schools from time to time.

As I grew, I realized I, personally, never felt any connection with either religion and became Atheist, then Agnostic for a long time. I now have studied solitary, eclectic Pagan+Wiccan traditions for a few years now and feel really connected to it.

I consider myself universalist/unitarian also. I think all religions are correct, at their core. In my understanding of this idea, place a statue of a human in the center of a room and have a few dozen or more people form a circle around it. Some people will see the back of the head, the side, the front. It is the same statue, but different perspective and points of view. Also, when you throw in color blindness, or people who can see extra colors you add more variations. In further addition, some people can see farther away than other people can and some people can only see very close up. Some people could be blind, which would require them to see through touch. No one is wrong, and no one is more correct than another person.

Then to further think about this idea i imagine maybe it is not a statue. It might be a hologram, or even a reflection from glass.

This is one of my favorite things to think about.

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
If there's anything you wanna ever understand, just ask..

It's ok to feel that way, one of my own family members is athiest, another believes in illuminati stuff not in support of but against, she thinks I'm a witch too lol

Another always seems like she's losing her faith but she's questionning to understand presumably, her husband to be does it to her, he's of another sect, though I don't have anything against sects, she always used to look up to me still does In Some ways, we had a discussion about something on the weekend that she wanted to challenge about traditions and culture where hair is concerned, I will not looked into it but will do, to help her understand..

Someone put a hex on me I ebliev and I believe it was some. In the family, after I stood upto them, this was something accused some others of when I had my awakenings around people I know, I don't have any intent to expose them in any way even if it is true and I don't have any worries, people don't realise when they intend to separate a couple or whatever they want the destruction on to hapoen, the spirits will do this for them, spirits yet don't know everything, they o my know little bits, they do they're work anyway but if the condition of the heart is anything to by, like they can separate my sm and me it's not him I live in that way, it's my tf, so it backfires, the spirit panics because it has to do not it's duty, since they live in the unseen world they know they can get away with doing it to the persons whose requested it to happen, my tf shouldn't be affected ted by it either, the spirit won't know who my tf is and that's why they try to access the heart, he's safe and always will be, the higher powered ones only know there's someone else so since I know how to guard my heart through my light works they can never access, they will only drive us to do what they want, which is what we want anyway, but that will only happen cause God wants it to happen for whatever reason..

But for those people who are involved in witchcraft for bad raesons, events have already been brewing in my household, when they come out I. The open they will think it was in they're favour, a karmic cycke, they will pride off of it and feel better about themselves, but it's a test for them, that's why the verse resonated verily the plot and plan but Allah is the best of planners. So we're safe. I have no worries, I've seen things coming to light, and constantlu being taken over by people's energies to carry on with the basics of life that I feel too tired to do sometimes, it riles them more, exposes their own hypocrisy.. but when I take on too much cause I'm always trying to keep up god and my guides step in and change the circumstances so I can have my rest, which to others will seem like I'm just being lazy but I'm not, they take over and I have no control over it. Even if I attempted they will re-write so no matter how many times I might want to achieve something, as much as it's a trial for me too, it's trailli g for them, to learn something, to change something.. but they don't see it nor believe it so I just go along with it where I can..
Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
3 weeks ago
862 posts

@chezarey:

I saw your note about seeing numbers repeat. I see a lot of repeating numbers that I believe are angel numbers. When I look up the definition they are pretty positive and often are highlighting things in my life that are relevant. I also took my daughter to a well known psychic in our area recently for some life coaching for her. And the psychic said she believes heavily in numerology. So this topic continues to fascinate me as well. If it helps you, here is a good website link where you can look up the meaning of numbers that you are seeing often in your daily life.

http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.com/p/index-numbers.html

Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts
@hop-daddy

That is amazing, I use that website quite often. (:
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
Just wanted to make sure you guys know that just because I believe in the spiritual energy and I do follow so wicca I am still finding myself. I don't believe in doing any major spells on anyone. I do use a healing spell on the twin flame connection in hopes it will continue to aid in healing both of us. I actually is the only spell I have ever tried. My soulmate/estranged husband would have made me feel horrible if he found out that I wanted to try using on. He always said he was open to it but in his passive aggressive way he would put me down for believing. I also am into stone therapy and I suffered from horrible night terrors from my past pain. Least once a week or more. I found an amethysts under the pillow helps stop them. I was sceptical and my husband was away for work. When he returned a month later and was making the bed one morning he found the stones under my pillow and started to yell at me about having rocks in our bed. Once he left the room I put the stone back under my pillow. The thing that surprised me was that it actually worked.. I now only get night terrors once every few months.. when I went to go spend time with my twin I brought my one amethyst I use for protection and always carry it on me. I had it under my pillow, when I was showering my twin made the bed and without ever saying a word about it he laid it on top of my pillow. It was several weeks later when I asked him if he knows why I have the stoplne with me. He said nope but I know it is something important to you and when u are ready u will tell me. He continued on saying that he knew that my ex has hurt me really bad and he needs me to realize that he is nothing like him, that I need to be comfortable to share with him. I did open up to him and he thought that it was interesting. I actually gave him his own and he uses it all the time. I have given him a rose quartzs also and explained how to use it also.
My twin also believes in tarot and has a set however he has never actually opened them or gotten a reading and when he found out that I believe in it he couldn't believe how close we were in what we believed. He now wants me to start to teach him what all I do believe in.
I believe in the wiccan 3 fold rule. That anything I do that is negitivie (expecially spells) will come back it effect me 3 fold (times as bad).
I don't ever want to be associated with anyone who has negitivie energy it is really hard for me to be around them.

The interesting thing you guy are taking about the 3 in 1 - God Jesus and holy ghost is all based upon the triquetra and several Christian religions use the triquetra to symbolize it. I actually wear a triquetra and am planning on getting one tattooed on the back of my neck. It comes from the Celtics meaning 3 in 1. I was raised going to a Lutheran Church and at 16 I took all the classes. At 21 when my life took a wrong turn and I was hurt really bad I was no longer able to believe in God and I went searching for answers and for something that made sense to my soul. I took classes about religious history while working towards my degree. And I learned that while everyone has different principals in different regions the core of them all is the same.. FAITH.. I have always believed since that point that it doesn't matter what u believe the biggest thing is to have faith in something more. I taught my kids that they are allowed to believe in whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt them or someone else and they never push their views on anyone else. My ex's family is Mormon and we're he never expected me to follow it his family would push hard for me to join. After a couple of tries i was pushed one night by missionary into an anxiety attack resulting in a minor breakdown. His family had pushed the missionaries on me while my husband was away for work and I thought I had to play nice. When he returned and found out what had happened he took me along with him to the highest ranking family member in the church and lost it on him. I was now off grounds for anyone who was Mormon. Never again will I be put in that situation. I was surprised that he stood up for me. It was about this time he also stopped going to church. He needed me to be ok to look after our kids with him being away for months at a time for work.
It was one of the very few times that he stood up for me to his family.

You asked about the brainwashing to my kids..
I am actually still married to my soulmate estranged husband/kids father and we are only officially seperated with no plans for a divorce on either side. I am currently working on finishing separating everything through the courts except for the divorce certificate. I am holding onto my widow rights to ensure that the kids are looked after if something happens to him. His career has a high risk factor to it. My twin flame has been trying to talk me into a divorce so I am free from my ex. Neither my twin or I want to ever be married again however we have talked about a commitment ceremony without legally tieing us to each other. He has his own horrible stories of marriage also. We actually talked about this before I knew that we were twin flames.
There is absolutely no doubt that my ex is abusive. I have been in therapy for the past 3 years to help cope with the abuse. The kids and I suffer from extreme PTSD and the last judge I was in court for said this is one of the worst cases of domestic mental abuse she has ever seen. The abuse is actually listed as phycological warfare where POW's have been treated with more dignity and respect than the kids and I have been. Unfortunately because of his career he is almost untouchable. I live in a first world country and yet there are no laws for certain people in this country. He uses the kids to try to hurt me. My twin always knows when something has happened and I am in piece and be will end the separation to come to me to help me rebuild. He feels the pain I am going through and knows that I need help. He has been helping me as best as he can to start putting up boundaries with the kids in order to help stop my ex from being able to hurt the kids or me. I now give my kids one warning that this conversation is over the minute I heard dad or about dad's views. I am happy to talk about anything else going on with the kids but I will not put up with this conversation. The next time I heard about dad or his views I will either hang up or walk away. It took a while for the kids to see I was serious but now they thank me for my way of dealing with it. It is giving them the power to tell Dad to stop. Mom won't be part of it and will either hang up or walk away. She doesn't put up with us being in the middle of you guys problems. From what I understand my ex has stopped alot of it.
Because of the extreme PTSD I am unable to work right now so I live off of spouse and child support. Things are tight but I make a budget and am able to get subsidys to make sure that we live within the funds I receive. Any extras the kids want I either have to save up for it they pay for it themselves as they both have jobs.
Because of his career he is almost untouchable to have supported garnished off his pay. I had to go to the leader of our country to get his pay garnished after the agency that is supposed to collect it ran into so much read tape they couldn't collect on the court order.
The government leader also arranged for me to receive the actual laws that applies to my ex's careers as they don't follow the laws of the land. My ex messed with my payments at the beginning of December stopping the garnishment so I didn't receive anything for Christmas. By time the agency that collects the payments was willing to let me know that nothing was coming it was only a few days before Christmas. It was way to late to get food or subsidys for Christmas to help me have a Christmas dinner and presents for the kids. He then made a huge deal about how unreliable I was and ensured each kid got something from him. Over the next 90 days I had to borrow funds from my parents and wait for the agency to let me know that with the red tape involved they will no longer be able to collect any funds. At that point suffering massive panic attacks I called up the person who was incharge of my husband's department and after getting chewed out for 10 mins and threatened that I will be charged for harrassment because I had no rights to call I turned around and read the paragraph that applied to him, making him legally responsible for ensuring that the garnishments went through. This person was upset that I had a couple of the laws, those were not to be released to the public. I told him that he is the one out of line and I have no problem letting the highest level of government know exactly what he just told me cause that is how I got the laws, just because he doesn't believe I should have it doesn't mean that I can have them, they are public record online I was just told where to look by the government. He told me that the payment was on its way. By the following day at the end of the day I had 90 days worth of pay that had cleared the 3 departments required and was sitting in. My bank account waiting for the 3 days to be cleared. There is absolutely nothing stopping my ex from pulling this stunt again when he gets a new leader. It is all so very frustrating and he did it when he knew it would hurt the kids and I the most. No one at this point is willing to go after the outstanding debt he owes in spouse and child support. His debt is over $62,000 at this point and where everyone who has a debt that high would have lost rights he is protected.
So many have told me to take it to the news paper and who knows that may be an option one day but not at this point. With my kids being 17 and 19 I still wanted to protect them and let them finished having a child hood. My therapist wants me to look at becoming an advocate for others who are in the same situation and dealing with the same organization once I finally have a handle on mine.
I married my soulmate 20 years ago after dating for a year. At the start things were good. When he changed careers after we had been married for 4 years with 2 young kids he started to change. I didn't see it but looking back I now see how the abuse started then. It wasn't often but he would ensure that my self confidence was distroy at times. I gave up my career so the kids had a steady parent with them at all times because he was always gone. Then the moving for his career every 2 years started and he would go away for months leaving me in a city I had no connections to. It was really hard on the kids and I. As the kids got older I tried to go back to work and without fail when I finally got hired for a gob that I liked I would find out that we had to move again. I then ended up really sick and had to have my gall bladder removed unfortunately over the next 3 day something had gone really wrong and I was bleeding internally. I had 60% of my blood supply and the only thing that had kept me alive was that I was to weak to do anything other than lie on my back. About 12 hours before I begged my husband to take me to the hospital that I was dieing and I needed help. He refused and told me to stop sucking..that I just felt crappy from the day surgery 2 days before. I didn't have the strength to fight him or to get my cell phone on the other side of the room. 12 hours later when he came to get on my case to stop being lazy and get out of bed cause we had to take the trip home I told him I needed help to get up. I was way to weak. After getting attitude and a lecture from him he helped lift me up. I started to convulse so he called 911.
I was rushed to the hospital. My blood pressure was very faint and from the time of the 911 call to being back in the operating room was 30 mins. They were unable to start an IV except in my neck as everything had collapsed. They pushed 4 bags of blood and a bag of plasma in me to keep me alive.
If my husband had waited 30 mins to wake me I would have been dead.
The medical feild feels that this was medical abuse because he wouldn't get me help when I begged him for it.
He walked out a year later and made me feel horrible. He verbally beat me down starting the day he came home to ask for a seperation. 16 years of marriage meant nothing to him. He wouldn't admit to the affair he was having with someone half my age. Normally I wouldn't care about age but the girl was way to close in age to our kids. She is only 5 and 7 years older than our kids and yes one of them is a daughter. The kids took a lot of crap from kids at school that they never wanted anything to do with my kids dad because how young does he like them.
Things just got worse after that. He was pushing me in to having a mental breakdown. He didn't want me to go to court to get maintenance. As far as he was concerned he walked out of the family so he didn't need to support the kids anymore. Him and his new girlfriend went partying around the world and paying support would take funds away from party funds.
Things actually got a lot worse.
Both kids have hit rock bottom and needed me to clean up the mess.
The brainwashing of the kids has been documented and I am now working on getting counseling for them.

My twin flame coming into my life has changed me so much and help me see things in a different way and has helped me learn how to move forward and live life for me.

I am now seeing how much my ex did control all of our lives. The kids still trying to have a relationship with dad but they are finding it harder and harder to do.

As for my twin wanting me to divorce my ex him and I have come to an agreement that as long as we are still together I will look at it when my baby is 21. He understands my reasons and has agreed to my terms after I validated it.

I hope that this helps..
I don't want to change anyone's views just for u to see a different side of them. I have no idea what is the right or wrong way for religion, all I believing is the key..

All the best to everyone..
Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
3 weeks ago
862 posts

@cat-is-very-broke:

Important question: How is that you have two guys in your life who make the bed? My wife would like to know your secret! Wink

You've discovered the magic of crystals and stones. They can be magical medicine for empaths. They can sometimes work on non-empaths, although I find many non-empaths block any benefit (particularly if they assign a negative image such as witchcraft or new age crap to it). When I first started using crystals and stones, I went in with some disbelief, and they didn't start working until I changed my attitude. You have to be all in and believe in what they do for them to work. You also have to take good care of them weekly with cleanings, and re-energizing them in the sun or in salt. And if you take care of them, they'll take care of you. (Just remember that you cannot put an amethyst in the sun as the color and energy will fade. Place them in a bowl of salt overnight to clear and energize them).

You picked the right crystal by using amethyst. Amethyst crystal therapies are primarily associated with physical ailments of the nervous system, the curing of nightmares and insomnia, and balancing the crown chakra.

Rose Quartz is another nice crystal. Although I find that it works better for calming females. It has a bit of a reputation as a female energy stone. So I'm not sure if your TF will experience much from it. But that said, I like having it around because the females in my home are the ones who are most emotional and I find it helps calm them.

You wrote a lot after you mentioned the crystals. And I'm not sure if there was a question in there covering the last half of your post? But it kind of sounds like your relationship with your ex has run its course. That may be hard for you to hear. But in reading your words and feeling your energy, I think you deep down know where you are at with him. It's very important for an empath to match with a spouse or significant other who listens and understands who we are and what we go through. Otherwise it is very difficult to co-exist. It's troubling that your ex is angry about you putting crystals under your pillow. It's not a big deal and is for your own good and will make you a better person with improved sleep. It seems if he is angry about something as small like that, then you two probably have much deeper issues and damage, and almost anything could have set him off. If he's open to joint counseling, and improving your relationship then I say go for it. But if not, then it sounds like your relationship is floundering and it is putting your vibration in a holding pattern on the low end of the spectrum. And that's keeping you as an empath from being and feeling your best.

I wish you well and hope you figure it out.

cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
I don't remember who ask if the kids were being brainwashed or just being kids. The last part was to explain it is pure abuse and brainwashing.
When my husband walked out 4 years ago and I finally found out about the young girl he was having the affair with I blocked all forms of communication with him. Unfortunately with his career he uses other services to harassment me like having police officers on my doorstep accusing me of hitting the kids. Both kids tell them I don't ever touch him but with them doing my ex a favor the officers don't listen to the kids or I. The final straw was the day I heard my ex's voice through the phone and the police was repeating everything he said. I called the supervisor and things turned worse for me.. I had no rights to complain. I called my parents in tears.. I was so close to a mental breakdown and my parents hired a domestic abuse divorce lawyer and by time the officers returned to the station the lawyer had worked her magic and no police officer was allow back at my house without a warrant. I was now off limits. He does all kinds of things like that.. I refuse to ever have anything to do with him again except in a court room. He has officially distroyed anything left between us. It has been 4 years of nightmares however the more boundaries I add the less he can effect me.
It took me 3 years before I was willing to attempt to date again.. The first one was a karmic relationship and he showed me that I could be loved again but it wasn't meant to last long, just to get me the courage to try. The next one was my twin..
So there was 3 1/2 years between 2 guys making my bed.. not quite the same excitement level..
But on a totally different note I have had my husband and another guy and a girl in my bed with me all at the same time.. for most of our marriage we were swingers so it would not have been a big surprise to have 2 guys making my bed at once.
My husband never left because of the swinging.. With how sick I was we had put swinging on the shelf plus he was gone again with work. My therapist and I had lots of talks about it.. reality is that being a swinger or not he would have cheated anyway. Looking at the way he treated the kids in the end. A person who is a narc doesn't care about what is good for the family only what is good for them. At the beginning he had it all under control and it only came out here and there however his career focused on him using being a narc to his advantage and was rewarded for it.
The part that pissed my parents off is that I do still love him, not the man he has become but the one I married 20 years ago. That guys who no longer exists will always have a part of my heart. I will never go back to him, I respect myself way to much to go back.

Also I love my twin very much, he has taught me that I am supposed to be treated with dignity and respect not put down. I am just frustrated that he is still running however I understand the why.. my twin and I are moving forward and I do believe with all my heart we will find union once he finishes his spiritual awakening.

Hope that clears up confusion.. Any other questions just ask.
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
Oh yeah as for stone therapy, The amethysts that I use I actually went mining them myself. I wear or carry (or both) several different types of stones.
I have also had the opportunity to mine some myself.
I started carrying them with me at all times about a year after my husband walked. I didn't care anymore.. this is my life and I had to find out who I was as a person and a mother..
I no longer let others dictate what I am and am not allowed to believe for faith Or do. I just ignored the minor things to keep our family together.. the bigger things I put my foot down at the time. With my twin is I don't like what he said I tell him straight away... My twin once told me that it is so refreshing to have some who is as honest as I am because he knows straight out if he crossed a line vs trying to have to guess what upset me.
He also know that there are many parts of me hidden and he keeps reminding me that I only need to share when I am ready. Same goes for him.
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
I'm sorry to hear what your SM/estranged husband is putting you through, but you don't have to allow him to do that, and this what trustees me sometime about relationships, some just never know how to balance a compromise, a favour, a gesture.. in my personal experience if I do any of that, I gotta stay on point to keep his ego in check and behaviour.

Given what you said, don't think it's time you left? Tf or not? I can't relate to much of what you said except snippets, but isn't it damaging to see the tf connection as both waiting for their knights in shining armour to rescue each other? I was gonna start a new thread but I'll keep adding here it's opening up new understandings for myself around the numbers and stuff, thanks to whoever shared that link with all the angel numbers, looks like I'm gonna be busy with that link! Much appreciated
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
We live on different sides of the country. There is a full separation. Only contact is through the courts. But stopping domestic abuse isn't as simple as one thinks when the law gives him certain rights and those from victims services are terrified of helping because of the power behind the career is has. No one left to report to when he has police all willing to help him out as a favor to his career. He didn't know a single one of them he had causing me harrassment. He interfere with my incoming funds and had them all stopped for 90 days. The agencies called me and told me they ran out of luck and couldn't collect on the court orders after the 90 day mark. I spent hours researching on how to solve it and had to do the agency work for them.. I am terrified of what the mail has so many times there is a new stunt in there... He uses the kids to hurt me cause he knows that I would do anything to protect them...
I HAVE NOT SEEN OR TALKED TO HIM IN 4 YEARS. My ex other that legality is not in my life but that doesn't mean I can stop the abuse. His career gives him extra rights... He isn't a cop but think along those lines. I could go to the media but I want my kids as adults.. I prefer not to throw mud in the media and hurt the kids more. The courts have put it in the court offers he has to stop abusing the kids and I but he ignores them. With the extreme PTSD I can't work right now from massive panic attacks. If I really pushing the issue and used lawyers to write to the government there is I high possibility that he could be fired but until I can get back on my feet I lose my only incoming funds. The courts were fed up with his actions and awarded me a very healthy spouse support. The child support helps with the kids expenses.
Yes I said I love him.. but the man I married, not the man he is now. We communicate via lawyer and the courts.. I stay married but separated from him just to protect my kids future in case something happens to him. His job is a higher risk attached to it.

My ex is a soulmate who I am so over. He lives hundreds of thousands of miles away but has Access to computers and programs that people don't know that exists.. In a computer age distance don't stop people any more.


My twin flame came along 3 years later. The is the opposite of my soulmate/estranged husband.. My twin encourages me to do things that interest me, help me when my ex has sucked out all my energy. Yeah my twin does run lots but he is terrified he isn't good enough for me and fighting to deal with his past. That bond always tells him when I have hit rock bottom and he will come to me right away just to hold me and help me sort through new options to deal with the newest stunt my ex has caused.. My twin on some of the worst days has packed me up and just taken me away for a few days to clear my head. My twin flame hates my ex just cause of the damage he see in me.

It has been a long 5 years but the last year has had so many bright spots after meeting my twin.. he helps give me the courage to keep fighting. With his spiritual awakening happening our union is coming... All my tarot readings since I have met him keep getting more positive.

As for my knight in shining armor.. that is me. I am the one who will rescue me.. I spend hours going through the legal books to find out ways to help protect my kids and myself from my ex. My twin and my therapist and sounding boards to help me sort out what I learn.

Trust me, I wouldn't ever go back to my soulmate/estranged husband, yes there are some wonderful memories there and I prefer to focus on those but I won't ever let anyone treat me how he has since he walked out.. Now I just keep picking up the messes he causes..

I hope that helps with confusion.
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts

cat_is_very_broke "]   but I won't ever let anyone treat me how he has since he walked out.. Now I just keep picking up the messes he causes..

Good for you! Too many people continue going through their cycle of abuse, not understanding what the universe is trying to teach them. I know we don't know each other, but as someone who has experienced abuse from both father and significant other, I am so, so, very proud of you. Congratulations on your victory, and never let anyone make you feel chained or cornered.

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
3 weeks ago
252 posts
I agree, I e felt like that on many occasions on a spiritual level, as much as in a real sense too, I'm actually not afraid to allow people to treat myself or others in that way either.

If there's more people on here with tf journeys, numbers and anything else relatable please share, I think one of the things I learned about the number where the 11's are concerned, though it's about tf, enlightenment, one person I heard from a satanic number too, but I want to do some digging on that I've not done, I kind of see it as now that I've grown from alot of experiences, wherever or whoever the healing came from, I remeby, myself included, used to not wish this journey on anyone, I did however wish it on everyone more recently, and I thought 11 is a number that's associated with the higher self right? But if we don't assume ourselves to be of a higher self but another, be it a person, a guide/mentor, general people or God or whatever we choose to believe in, then we can absolutely heal anyone else, it would be selfish in my personal opinion to believe in it solely for the twinflame journeys, I'd need to refer back to what those numbers means cause it's been a while since I did that.. I tend not to retain much unless I note it down or people remind me..

Even where we talked about other stuff like the holy trinity, I believe in Jesus, I sympathize with him, and understand his life from my own teachings and upbringings, but if people wanted to believe he was an empath, and I do too, I kind of feel where I had mini experiences with the physical empath side, that this could have well been my punishment or reminder or suffering caused to myself for acting according my Knowings, what did Jesus do? He tried to warn people, out of love and compassion, he tried to teach them that what he was, how he was and what he knew was real, and so suffered I. His life continually, even upintil the point of crucifiction, in my beliefs, when he was placed on the crossed, the people saw pain and suffering, yet no remorse or sympathy, in the same sense we go through that but others don't see it, when we come out of the states of all the energies we've been carrying, we are ourselves, we have pain and suffering but we have the strength to carry on, I kind of see it like that.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to believe in Jesus in whatever way we choose to, but if we want to keep Empathising with him, then it's like a calling to him, to carry his burdens, and he becomes the sole power, if the mind and body isn't built up to manage that, it begins to affect everything around us.

My litanies are my life line, I do believe that, they are what give me strength and agility, I know own it will be tough but I will come out if it I. The end knowing angels, people, guides and God are always with me, there's a great combattor in my faith he was well known for his excellence in his leadership and management when soldiers were out on the battlefield, being an empath is like that in reality and spiritually, he always knew how to target his enemies, whatever they may be, it doesn't have to be as serious as that, I love him and he was known as Khalid bin Waleed, people looking into his life will be amazed, his greatness is studied if not my mistaken on the special gifts he had and there was an article or something I read on once that I'll try and find and share, but he's who I think of when I feel like I'm being cornered, he gives me the ability to open up my mind to new situations, knowing my enemies just as an example and I know whose going to attack me from where. That how people and energies on spirit sense tend to take. A back seat and I get my rest to prepare for another take and how I continuously keep going without burn out, even if I do, by the time I'm doing cleansing and understanding, I've forgotten about everything like it was nothing, I can take more on.

Which I feel like I've been assigned my next assignment on light work around a person whose beastly but also has a connection my sister, everything that I'm taking seems to be myself separating what was from both these people and and what was me, she always looked up to me, though it's difficult because my sm refuses any contact with her because of a past, I feel like I've taken on his karmic cycke because he refuses to follow one of the basic principle of not holding a grudge against anyone and the impression it's caused myself and others, the separation of ties the prophet also warned against, the ingratitude that shows through his charactwr, though he has no intent, I understand his side and believe him, but he doesn't see how it comes across to others, if we believe sincerely in the ways of the traditions where myself is concerned, those should be acted upon and they become ingrained and become regular and consistent practices, I don't fully believe them or understand them so I don't or can't act according to them where I outgh to. implement them in my life, and some of it is like stage set up to open his understanding and sneses but I can't ion anything h for anyone if they're not willing to open they're own mind..

Sorry for that ramble, but I'm loving this thread keep it going if we can?
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
3 weeks ago
32 posts
@ Chezarey Thank you.

It hasn't been an easy journey and I took the 3 year. Being single to find myself and working towards placing boundaries up.

I am teaching my kids that no one has the right to treat them that way.. It took a little while longer for my 17 year and daughter to see it and I am very proud of her. She is ending her relationship with her boyfriend because of the abuse. She said why should I she put up with it if her mom won't.
The guy she has dated for several years was a soulmate. I told her it is ok to let soulmates go. There is nothing wrote in stone that says that just cause u guys are soulmate u don't have the right to be respected.
She now wants to take the time to heal. At 17 they dated for approx 4 years.. She couldn't understand at the time why I refused to date for the first couple years, now she wants to follow what I did and take a year or so off of dating to find herself. I told her that is very healthy. She is also asking for counseling.
She has a long way to go but sees that no matter what negative remarks dad says it has helped me grow.

I have never told her about twin flames. I am just not ready to share that with her yet. My twin and I agreed right from the beginning that until we are in an actual serious relationship and have been in one for 6 to 12 months neither of us meets the others kids. I watch so many who involve their kids only a few months later to end it. I don't believe in that, neither does my twin. He has had a few girlfriend after his marriage ended and waits as long as possible before having his kids the the new girlfriend meet. He said I am the first person who has never pressured him into meeting his kids... I told him kids need to be protected and into we can figure this out all them are off limits.
I actually hope that neither of my kids ever find their twin flame. After this last year my friend said that even with all the positive change she never wants to meet her twin flame. She is counting on me and my empath feeling to guide her away from hers.. She can't believe what a person has to go through once they meet them.

This has been a very interesting chat... I really enjoy it..

If you guys have any other questions about what I have said please ask.. I don't mind at all.

Plus it will give me practice. My therapist wants to to seriously look at in another year or two once I have finished all legal aspects in the courts except for the divorce to find out how to make a no profit company and help other spouses who have their loved ones in the same career in the same field as my ex and are going through the same hell. I was strong enough to survive mine, many are not and give up losing everything or take their own lives.

Over the next year after I finish this last round of court I am going to look at if it is a possibility to do. My therapist said he isn't going anywhere and will help me however he can..

As for my twin flame, he is on the fence about it, he is only worried I could be dragged back down but he told me that he also knows I have the strength to do it and no one should have to live through it. He will be there however he can...

I do miss my twin flame while in separation but using a pink quartz I wear I talk to him all the time..I am able to hear his soul talking back as long as the stress in my life isn't blocking it..

Does anyone else get that their stress blocks the connection?
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
3 weeks ago
48 posts
@cat-is-very-broke

I understand. These are very interesting conversations.

A trick I use is 'would I be okay with a guy treating my sister like this?'

I use this trick on myself lately, as I am noticing I am having some emotional control issues..
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
2 weeks ago
252 posts

just a random thought, tf's, alphas? why does it always seem, in my personal case, that one of us always wants the last say?

cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
2 weeks ago
32 posts
Do you know much about a D/s arrangement or relationship?
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
2 weeks ago
32 posts
I am normally a dominant person and being the oldest feeds into it along with being a Taurus.. I almost always have to have the last word unless I don't feel like the person is worth waisting my time on.. ie.. someone who has road rage...
With my twin flame he is a middle child so he goes with the flow and he is a Pisces so he is normally what one would call submissive. He won't be pushed around but will do anything he can to make sure that a conflict can be avoided.
With us at times when we are intimate we reverse roles and I let him have the power and I have to really work on not trying to get the last day...
Now I am not into the real pain of it so it does become interesting to see how someone who normally doesn't control a situation now need to have control over a bratty sub who doesn't exactly feel like following the rules...
It is very freeing and u learned a lot about you and your twin when the roles are reversed. It am not saying run out and grab some whips and chains but see how well you can take simple orders from your twin or blind folded u and use a scarf (handcuffs can cut up wrists) to tie your hands so u have to rely upon them... See how it works for now needing the last word. See how it can be freeing and what u guys learn about each other.

Oh yeah the most important thing is that even as the submissive u will still hold all the power cause if done safely the submissive is also give a safe word or gesture (when the mouth is full/gagged) and the second that word /gesture is used all play stops. The submissive has the most power.

I know that my answer took a totally different turn it was the exchange of energy that first interested me in the subject and the last 10 years I have read so many books on it and talked with several people I know who are into it. I have no idea how much you know but if it is very little then trust me 50 shades of grey was a very poor represention of the whole dynamic.
I enjoy watching others at fetish clubs also, the way the dynamic of the interaction between the energy and power is so interesting...
I hope that I haven't offended anyone with my answer.
It was the easiest way for me to walk in someone else's shoes and my twin to walk in mine... He had never done anything like it but he found he learned so much about himself and me also...
I hope that this helps u with your question and I didn't totally misunderstand u.
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
2 weeks ago
252 posts
cat_is_very_broke "]
Do you know much about a D/s arrangement or relationship?
First I've heard, what is it?

Haha no I'm not offended in anyway. What is it about this stuff? It's resonated to me before but I don't get it..

I'm not much of a movie person but 50 shades is seriously cheesy, I don't get what the whole hoo hah around it was.. if anything I just think it was successful because of how many relationships in reality suffer from a lack of mutual understanding and intimacy. The ability to compromise and fulfill one another.

People suffer that all the time yet many won't openly declare it or understand why they find a certain person attractive be it lust or love .. that's my rambling anyway..

I don't want you putting your personal stuff out even if it's something that doesn't bother you, I'm just curious in understanding lots of different things so you can always send a follow and inbox..

Since my tf effed off again I don't have anyone to talk to about stuff that I'm genuinely passionate about and no one else gets it like he does..I just feel sorry for him that I'm stuck in my ways and he's probably gonna start picking up on my low moods and for him they probably end up being depressed level or more..

Funny thing is id probably indulge in comfort food right now but I don't enjoy my cookies as much when he's not around to share with..
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
2 weeks ago
32 posts
I have no idea how to do private message...
Message me any time...
cat_is_very_broke
cat_is_very_broke
@cat-is-very-broke
2 weeks ago
32 posts
And yeah..
For any one who has anything to do with the real world of what 50 Shades tried to do was so disappointed but I read read the books.. the movie was tamed down some but the books was a huge disappointment also..
I am very unique.. that kind of stuff doesn't bother me to talk about at all and so many people I know come to me for advice I do have to be careful with the online presence... Complicated...
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
2 weeks ago
252 posts
Someone close to me is a taurus, and they're a dominant personality, but not where they're partner comes in I assume, I just sense that this person can do so much better than who they're with, and often Id picked up energies in that past that they'll just succumb to whatever ways one of the partner needs pleasing. I don't spend much time with them, but I have questioned the authenticity of the relationship, they've been together for 10yrs I think, not even married yet, another help waiting to happen in the sense disagreements and stuff.

In one way I can empathise with both situations, but generally I usually say if we have a problem with someone, the problem itself should be addressed with the person we have it with, that doesn't mean everyone has to suffer as a result of it, or do they?

Stuff you talk about is interesting and I don't like to push my boundaries especially with people I don't know..

On the other hand, I just just sometimes zone off my tf and I relationship, we're both pretty messed up psychologically, but we know how to remind each other of what's beyond the norms, and what is acceptable whether it be between us privately or in the public eye..

We just have that mentality that we forget what reality is sometimes, adlnd being what we are and not having something solid as a foundation means we fall out slot, not because it's a tf run/chase thing, but what happens in normal situations.

It's like sometimes I'm out doing my stuff and it will seriously bother him where my financial circumstances are concerned and I always say to him don't let it bother you, but it's natural that it does.. help just have to find a way around it..

All us siblings are in a group chat and my sister's will post a ton of shit daily about designer stuff and fashion and all the typical girl stuff, I genuinely don't care for it, and it never bothers me, I just like to poke fun at them or spam them with my meme gun when they start complaining about having no money or a bunch of other girl stuff, it just amazes me in the sense no matter what situation someone is in we'll always find a reason to be grateful and sorrowful, content and discontentment, it's only to teach us to know where a balance should be and how to have control and not those things have a control on us.

My sm on the other hand, though I don't believe in tf stuff, I just feel sorry for him, that everything I do for him and whatever little remains of it, that he will never appreciate or he won't ever think in the ways that I do, sharing my empath stuff with him was a blessing and a regret, but if this union ever happen my truth shall prevail my tf falsehood, no one can argue that once we seek it out, but I know sm will turn around and hold everything against me, but no one will side with me, I'll be on my own, all I have as proof is the 2-3 sentences of what I reached out to people tell them iyf his ways and that I need help, even then that even he doesn't see fault in sometimes, why it's dangerous to always keep everything so private, which is how we'd always been..

People can in future hold it against me too that I should have done more but actually they would have just seen me as being annoying, needy, complaining, sensitive when all I was trying to do was pull out of something I have no control over..

It's made me wonder if this whole tf stuff is specific to opposite genders? Surely there must be same genders? And usually it's intuitive people I see talk about, what about people in general?

Haha Ur guys must be loving the shadey stuff! What got you into it? That must put some serious effort in to Ur relationships to keep you/them satisfied?
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
2 weeks ago
252 posts
Succumbing out of not wanting to part ways, or being able to find someone better than them or equivalent etc.. that something I don't have a problem with and I'll seek out another partner if any of mine ever made me feel that way, talking about it with my therapist made me realise the reality of what was actually going on and prove my thinking around of why should it be acceptable for anyone to be treated in certain ways, the least we can do is point it out and see if it makes someone want to change, if not they'll eventually exhaust the patience of one or themselves and the relationship comes to an end..

It's just how I see mine somwtimes.
spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
2 weeks ago
252 posts
Is it normal to be thinking about ur tf round the clock? As an empath I try to not only understand him and others too, but to understand, sympathise, console in the only ways I know how, I could easily go beyond, but would he want me to, and how would I know he'd still take me seriously when apart of me knows he began to disbelieve in some of it, personal beliefs has nothing to do with it, but that if I fall for him, maybe it's too late? Or if I want him, he'l say no, what if he doesn't commit to me in the ways I do to him, would I begin to search for someone else, are all tf's success stories? Everyone I think or express this I feel like a part of him slipped away but isn't that what giving up and placing trust was about? That it shouldn't control you nor I control it, though we're having fun and messing around, this too is a karmic cycle and this is how I just have to accept it, I'm sorry for never fully understanding, empathising, sympathising, and it works, if anyone else doesn't, he does, and I understood yesterday too, and it's ok I reassure myself that what was never meant for me I have no control over. That was the purpose of the law of attraction or whatever ways we want to believe in higher powers or universe.. I feel like I no longer have the right to say I love him, and as much as someone else's energies I'm in, as if a doctor silently tweaking, and reshaping those thoughts and beliefs of someone who seemed list for a while, but am I causing damage by doing this? Will there be hope if it fails? Will they know I was embodied within them, why can my soul do this and apart of me have no recollection until I begin to write, why is it so important for me to write? Who will it ever benefit? All these souls or atomic singulars, I'm not god nor the universe, yesterday was as if my own ego had asked me a question, 'who am I?' I responded I am all of which you made me, 'why am I?' because that is what our existence was set out to be.
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
2 weeks ago
48 posts

@spiritualskies

No TF story is the same. They don't all work out this time around. The best advice I can give you is accept/let go. Not to walk away, but completely and totally accept that it might not work out and you'll be okay if it doesn't. Just enjoy the person when they're around, cherish the moments like they might not happen again. Don't bog yourself down with heavy emotions of sadness that it might not work, it's not worth missing out on the little moments.

spiritualskies
@spiritualskies
2 weeks ago
252 posts
Thanks.. is my negativity that bad? I just couldn't switch off from thinking, watched a movie called all I see is you and then bam went into more thinking.. it's so frustrating sometimes..

Anyway I found this blog other day and though it was an interesting read in anyone else fancies..
https://www.thediaryofanempath.com/recentposts/10-things-i-wish-i-knew-when-i-started-using-the-law-of-attraction
Chezarey
Chezarey
@chezarey
2 weeks ago
48 posts

@spiritualskies

No, I just remember when I went down the same rabbit hole of thought and doubt.

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