Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
2 years ago
968 posts

Hi...personally I think the medical jargon was created to discredit people like us....and the sad thing is everone like us has been conditioned to believe it....everything I've been through and read about....all our gifts....are very similar if not identical to what the drs of medicine....who have created labels that indicate we're nuts....according to them I have an unknown psychosis....according to spiritalists I had a major opening of ALL gifts at one time....and I had to get it under control...none in the medical proffession could help me...if they had their way they'd lock me up....as they've locked up many like us over the centuries or out right killed us....we pick up stuff at the energy level which affects us at the energy level....and the medical proffession does not work that deep...

Cat Whisperer
Cat Whisperer
@cat-whisperer
2 years ago
767 posts

Good question. Sometimes I wonder. I was "diagnosed" with depression years ago when I was seeking counseling regarding the stress I was going though knowing that I was going to get fired from my job due to others' extreme dislike for me. I was told that I had paranoia and put on meds...a month or so later...it happened, just how I told her it would. Seems like all of the western medical practices do not recognize anything that they cannot explain so they put a label on it and throw pills at it. I did, though, have depression and was on meds for years..I continued to take them as they did dull everything...but..it came at a price. Since I had been on it so long, my body had grow accustomed to it so it was extremely hard to get off of. Now since I know the source of my issues (my empathness) the depression has all but gone.

Cheshire Cat
Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
2 years ago
1,330 posts

Hi mommy4,

I used to be a psychiatric social worker, (now disabled) so I will address your question about Bipolar Disorder specifically from my training and point of view.

There are some very bad therapists out there, especially at the pill mills, where you cannot actually get any talk therapy now days. They'll gladly diagnose you in five minutes or less with whatever the latest expensive pill from Big Pharma is treating, just so they can win a free trip to the Bahamas or some other bribe. If you've encountered one of  these, get another opinion please!

They have a relatively new diagnosis, called Bipolar Type II, which is almost indistinguishable from atypical depression aka agitated depression aka irritable depression, a much more common condition that affects 40% of all those with depression, in which irritability replaces apathy in an otherwise common presentation of depressive symptoms. There are no other symptoms of Bipolar Disorder or they are very mild, and IMO, may describe almost anyone. This again gives them the right to hand you some very expensive and dangerous anti-psychotic meds, when you may really need treatment for depression instead. If you've encountered this, please get a second opinion!

Having said all that, Bipolar Disorder Type I definitely exists and is a very serious psychosis. However, nobody with decent training would ever confuse it with being an empath. I will give you 3 examples of  typical Bipolar manic behavior from actual patients I've had. Ask yourself if any of this sounds like an empath to you.....

1. This patient went into a manic episode and decided it would be fun to steal a car and drive it over 100 mph on the highway, in the wrong direction! She eventually went off the roads when  the cops chased her. She gave no thought to the danger or consequences, as is typical during these episodes.

2. This patient told her husband she was expanding her business to another nearby town. She then went on the Internet and arranged hookups with many different men at motels in that other town about twice a week, until he finally got suspicious and followed her. Promiscuity is a very common manic symptom.

3. This patient was worshipped by his adoring wife. He died, and afterwards she found he had several secret credit cards with thousands of dollars in debts from paying for porn on the Internet. Big spending sprees are another common feature of mania for some, often including gambling, but  in this case it was combined with the urge to be promiscuous. 

I don't know any real empaths who behave this way. Causing others this kind of pain is something we empaths work hard to avoid. I hope this will help you sort this out.

Regards,

Cheshire Cat



@bunnigirl
2 years ago
0 posts

I was told I am an empath from a healer.  I thought empathy-empath were the same thing.  She also told me I took on the bi-polar feelings my siblings or absorbed them to my own.  The only time manic would appear was whenever I was in an intimate relationship.  I started really thinking when she said you are not bi-polar, you absorb emotional/physical pains of people.  I started paying attention.  Alone away from people I was never depressed or manic.  I think it is everyone's individual experience to whether they are or not.  I am aware of my up moods now and then meditate or ground myself or do yoga.  

Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts

I would think everyone experience depression in some form at different points in our lives.  I have been depressed but not to the point of taking meds.  I took one for a couple of weeks while going though divorce but it killed my vibration completely.  I was numb so I stopped taking it.   I do have what I guess you would call "manic" episodes. Lol but it's always cause by someone pushing the boundaries.   I think I level out prettt well though.   

The first time I was not in control was back in the summer when I was going though that spell of what ever you might call it but I knew it wasn't mine or wasn't  like depression that I feel from others.   I don't really know what that was.   I could step out of myself and take a good look and it wasn't normal behavior or feelings for me     

Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
2 years ago
898 posts

This is a great post as I believe a lot of people who are empathic can be wrongly diagnosed with a mental illness. In fact, I had that happen to me. I did not know I was an empath and was feeling overwhelmed by the world and was always stressed, anxious, and often depressed. Things came to a head when I was at my lowest point and I finally went to a doctor. I was given anti-depressant medicine that did not make me feel any happier and instead turned me into a numbed up zombie. I quit taking it after a week. At that point, my doctor didn't know what to do to help me. I started doing some reading online trying to see where I matched up with possible mental illnesses and found an empath website. And I recognized who I was, and the rest is history. Understanding that I was an empath helped me understand that I was not ill and helped better identify why I was having waves of emotions (from other people). And now I'm better able to manage the negative symptoms through grounding (no medicine needed).

The tricky thing is that I don't want people who have legitimate mental illness to think they are an empath and go off their meds. Not being a doctor I would guess a lot of people with an anxiety and/or depression disorder could be empaths. But I would think anything more serious like bi-polar, mania, or schizophrenia etc... should carefully adhere to their doctor's advice on how to manage the illness.

Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts

Hop Daddy:

This is a great post as I believe a lot of people who are empathic can be wrongly diagnosed with a mental illness. In fact, I had that happen to me. I did not know I was an empath and was feeling overwhelmed by the world and was always stressed, anxious, and often depressed. Things came to a head when I was at my lowest point and I finally went to a doctor. I was given anti-depressant medicine that did not make me feel any happier and instead turned me into a numbed up zombie. I quit taking it after a week. At that point, my doctor didn't know what to do to help me. I started doing some reading online trying to see where I matched up with possible mental illnesses and found an empath website. And I recognized who I was, and the rest is history. Understanding that I was an empath helped me understand that I was not ill and helped better identify why I was having waves of emotions (from other people). And now I'm better able to manage the negative symptoms through grounding (no medicine needed).

The tricky thing is that I don't want people who have legitimate mental illness to think they are an empath and go off their meds. Not being a doctor I would guess a lot of people with an anxiety and/or depression disorder could be empaths. But I would think anything more serious like bi-polar, mania, or schizophrenia etc... should carefully adhere to their doctor's advice on how to manage the illness.

thats why I am reluctant on posting on mental health issues    I do believe some have medical issues   They see things and hear things they may need treatment for and I don't won't my words to stand in their way of getting medical advice ...

im spiritual and the things I hear see and feel is not the same as Schizophrenia or other mental health issues but I do think some are missed diagnosed.   

Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
2 years ago
898 posts

Rene, I totally agree. One the one hand you hate to see newbie empaths who are experiencing anxiety be given anti-depressants (muting their gift). But on the other hand, we don't want to see someone with a mental illness avoid medical help. It is very tricky. 

Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
2 years ago
898 posts

@mommy4:

I'm curious, what is your personal definition of what makes a person bipolar? And how does that fit in with how you are feeling and acting?

I think bi-polar disorder is so serious that if you are bipolar I would hate to see you avoid getting diagnosed and treated while thinking it is just empathy. I think doctors these days give out anti-depressants like candy when a patient says they are feeling a little down. And in many cases an empath is given anti-depressants to make them feel better. I have issue with that and personally went through that. But being bipolar is more serious than being a little anxious or depressed.

I know a few people who are bipolar and do really well on their meds. So the good news is there is help for you with traditional medicine if you are bipolar. If you don't mind my two cents, I would suggest that you go to a doctor to run tests to see if you are clinically bipolar. And while you are in the process of doing that I would see how well you cope with continuing your yoga and grounding exercises. Maybe try to get some protection crystals to carry with you day and night to see if those also help calm you down (most empaths respond well to black tourmaline or black obsidian). 

Best of luck to you. I hope you are able to stabilize your life and be happy.

Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
2 years ago
898 posts

I just realized that I left out a transition sentence. in the above comment. I would suggest that you get tested by a doctor for mental illness while also trying some of the standard empath grounding techniques and yoga/exercise or whatever else makes you feel better and relieve stress. That way you are taking two approaches to trying to get yourself back in balance.

Hop Daddy
Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
2 years ago
898 posts

Hmmm. Very tough call given your bipolar history. 

What happens with me is I get strong emotions that hit me without warning that aren't mine. They come and go but typically leave me feeling anxious and drained by days end. I have a terrible time in crowds like a movie theater or church as I feel absolutely bombarded. But I know how to control it through grounding, carrying crystals, and getting away from a situation that I can't handle (like people arguing etc...). If this sounds like you and you feel safe not being on bipolar meds, then you may be an empath. Aside from Yoga, do you notice a pretty immediate calming effect from grounding & meditation?

TigerLily
TigerLily
@tigerlily
2 years ago
428 posts

Chesire Cat put it the best about bipolar.  and I agree with everyone that highs and lows are diagnosed with bi polar, even though not.  ugh, I'm so tired of the bad Dr's out there and others in the workplace getting a free ride, and know nothing.  (sorry)   women with pcos are often diagnosed as bi polar as well due to the hormones causing ups and downs, but no irrational behavior like stealing a baby and taking a road trip.  One of the characters in shameless is bipolar, and no empath acts like that.  The ups and downs is not bi polar if one day your sad and the other happy, stuff happens in life.  But we all absorb it in like sponges and have to work harder to keep sane :)

Visitor
Visitor
@visitor
2 years ago
303 posts

I've known bipolar people, and it's a genuine disorder, believe me. I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety, labels I accept (for now) because they work for me. I'm also an awakening empath. Bipolar disorder is a very difficult disease to keep under control, and it may be related to empathy, but it's not the same. One person I knew very well could be suicidal for weeks, then manic for days. He was sometimes manic and depressed at the same time. Mania was sometimes expressed as a feeling of great power, and sometimes it was pure rage. He was very empathic, but used it to manipulate people, not help them. I felt very relieved that I didn't have it myself. Bipolar disorder is sometimes tied to childhood sexual abuse (that was true in this person's case). I've heard that only a BP can understand another BP. I don't understand it, but it's definitely real, not just the "disorder of the month."

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