Differences between Bipolar Disorder and Being a Empath

To post a reply, login or signup

mommy4
@mommy4
last year
28 posts

So, I know I wonder often how can you tell if your having a Bipolar High or Low moment or if it's being a Empath?  Or is Bipolar Disorder just a medical term doctors use to make money prescribing you medicine and sending you to therapies?  Is it normal for a person to believe it's Bipolar Disorder from what doctors say but it's actually the person is a Empath but doesn't know it? What is the difference between a person with bipolar and a Empath?  Or is there really a difference?  And so,  to help me and other new comers what are some of the better skilled Empaths views on these questions?  Has every Empath been diagnosed with Bipolar or Depression?  I want to get down to the nitty gritty about the differences (if any)  between Bipolar Disorder and Empaths.... Blessed be.... 


updated by @mommy4: 04/14/17 07:41:51PM
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
last year
787 posts

Hi...personally I think the medical jargon was created to discredit people like us....and the sad thing is everone like us has been conditioned to believe it....everything I've been through and read about....all our gifts....are very similar if not identical to what the drs of medicine....who have created labels that indicate we're nuts....according to them I have an unknown psychosis....according to spiritalists I had a major opening of ALL gifts at one time....and I had to get it under control...none in the medical proffession could help me...if they had their way they'd lock me up....as they've locked up many like us over the centuries or out right killed us....we pick up stuff at the energy level which affects us at the energy level....and the medical proffession does not work that deep...

Cat Whisperer
@cat-whisperer
last year
728 posts

Good question. Sometimes I wonder. I was "diagnosed" with depression years ago when I was seeking counseling regarding the stress I was going though knowing that I was going to get fired from my job due to others' extreme dislike for me. I was told that I had paranoia and put on meds...a month or so later...it happened, just how I told her it would. Seems like all of the western medical practices do not recognize anything that they cannot explain so they put a label on it and throw pills at it. I did, though, have depression and was on meds for years..I continued to take them as they did dull everything...but..it came at a price. Since I had been on it so long, my body had grow accustomed to it so it was extremely hard to get off of. Now since I know the source of my issues (my empathness) the depression has all but gone.

seanw4202
@seanw4202
last year
54 posts

I think that they are different and the same at once

If all empaths are diagnosed with depression *myth btw

should =?

All depressed persons are empaths

Not true, there is a higher percentage of depression vs pop. than empaths vs pop.

My depression is often escalated when I think about others, the world, the manipulation of wealth and power for selfish greed. I choose not to focus on the negative, and what upsets me the most is 90% of the pain in our modern world derives from lack of connections with others.  When we care more for value and gain than each other, we lose something we have evolved with, We used love to develop the community driven survival tactics of which we are definitely not the only species showing examples of such.  We do not work because we love to, we do not reach out to strangers without a reason, we do not choose whats best for all, we choose whats best for us... I refer to the mass populations, where its a dog eat dog world, and experience and knowledge doesn't outweigh sexual favors and exploitation in the workplace, where raises are denied by a manager who receives a bonus for low labor.

Many people lack the ability to understand how their actions or others actions affect other people and future events, for the worse, for the poorer, for the lesser good in the long run, as long as said person gets what they want.  

It is possible to be feeling others depression with a broken way of life, we all travel a hard and bumpy road most worse off than others.  We live in a time and around so many people that nobody should need for anything, anywhere, ever.  Mankind has never known such a way of life, yet new souls are born into a world of technological wonder and material abundance, where the only thing that matters is whats on paper, your education, your IQ, GPA, Deg's, Military service, your gender, your age, your weight, your color, your everything but what matters. We learn and work, yet nobody teaches you how to live, which is what all life exists to do. We lose love, hope, and wonder for the world as it is in all of its majestic and mysterious beauty.  We find ourselves sad.  If you suffer from bi-polar disorder, it just means you can see for yourself, rather than through the lenses of social engineering.  Like they said before me, they slapped a title and some mind-numbing pills on it, made some money and have no idea how debilitating it is to people.

I never sought out mental or psychological help because it felt more depressing to give in and subject myself to dulling down through chemical bonds, just to feel okay about the problems that surround me? No, depression is very powerful, It can lead to suicide, murder, and major psychological problems to say the least.  If we would get our shit together the same motivation we have to be sad could be just as powerful to be happy.  I try to use my depression as strength to say what others wont, to fix what nobody sees as broken, to stand up for the weak and defend the freedom of love and life to those who are prisoner to money and greed.  If I took a pill I wouldn't be as good a person, Through my pain I find the light.

Cheshire Cat
@cheshire-cat
last year
1,185 posts

Hi mommy4,

I used to be a psychiatric social worker, (now disabled) so I will address your question about Bipolar Disorder specifically from my training and point of view.

There are some very bad therapists out there, especially at the pill mills, where you cannot actually get any talk therapy now days. They'll gladly diagnose you in five minutes or less with whatever the latest expensive pill from Big Pharma is treating, just so they can win a free trip to the Bahamas or some other bribe. If you've encountered one of  these, get another opinion please!

They have a relatively new diagnosis, called Bipolar Type II, which is almost indistinguishable from atypical depression aka agitated depression aka irritable depression, a much more common condition that affects 40% of all those with depression, in which irritability replaces apathy in an otherwise common presentation of depressive symptoms. There are no other symptoms of Bipolar Disorder or they are very mild, and IMO, may describe almost anyone. This again gives them the right to hand you some very expensive and dangerous anti-psychotic meds, when you may really need treatment for depression instead. If you've encountered this, please get a second opinion!

Having said all that, Bipolar Disorder Type I definitely exists and is a very serious psychosis. However, nobody with decent training would ever confuse it with being an empath. I will give you 3 examples of  typical Bipolar manic behavior from actual patients I've had. Ask yourself if any of this sounds like an empath to you.....

1. This patient went into a manic episode and decided it would be fun to steal a car and drive it over 100 mph on the highway, in the wrong direction! She eventually went off the roads when  the cops chased her. She gave no thought to the danger or consequences, as is typical during these episodes.

2. This patient told her husband she was expanding her business to another nearby town. She then went on the Internet and arranged hookups with many different men at motels in that other town about twice a week, until he finally got suspicious and followed her. Promiscuity is a very common manic symptom.

3. This patient was worshipped by his adoring wife. He died, and afterwards she found he had several secret credit cards with thousands of dollars in debts from paying for porn on the Internet. Big spending sprees are another common feature of mania for some, often including gambling, but  in this case it was combined with the urge to be promiscuous. 

I don't know any real empaths who behave this way. Causing others this kind of pain is something we empaths work hard to avoid. I hope this will help you sort this out.

Regards,

Cheshire Cat

bunnigirl
@bunnigirl
last year
169 posts

I was told I am an empath from a healer.  I thought empathy-empath were the same thing.  She also told me I took on the bi-polar feelings my siblings or absorbed them to my own.  The only time manic would appear was whenever I was in an intimate relationship.  I started really thinking when she said you are not bi-polar, you absorb emotional/physical pains of people.  I started paying attention.  Alone away from people I was never depressed or manic.  I think it is everyone's individual experience to whether they are or not.  I am aware of my up moods now and then meditate or ground myself or do yoga.  

Rene''
@rene
last year
1,194 posts

I would think everyone experience depression in some form at different points in our lives.  I have been depressed but not to the point of taking meds.  I took one for a couple of weeks while going though divorce but it killed my vibration completely.  I was numb so I stopped taking it.   I do have what I guess you would call "manic" episodes. Lol but it's always cause by someone pushing the boundaries.   I think I level out prettt well though.   

The first time I was not in control was back in the summer when I was going though that spell of what ever you might call it but I knew it wasn't mine or wasn't  like depression that I feel from others.   I don't really know what that was.   I could step out of myself and take a good look and it wasn't normal behavior or feelings for me     

RyuukoGo
@ryuukogo
last year
110 posts

My ex wife is Bipolar...during her "high'"s she would drive recklessly,gets arrested,put in the hospital for a week or two ,it took 30mg of Haldol to snap her out of the mania.In a 12 year period she was arrested 6 times and hospitalized a dozen times.If she got depressed she could go into a catatonic stupor where she would have no interaction with the world,would not eat,talk and required hospitalization.

If I get a " high" I look around and see what is causing it...it could  from being around a group of people that are being positive or I am just in a good mood...after I leave the group I feel normal.

One time her psychiatrist said to me that I am beginning to act Bipolar....I knew my married days were numbered.

Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
last year
507 posts

This is a great post as I believe a lot of people who are empathic can be wrongly diagnosed with a mental illness. In fact, I had that happen to me. I did not know I was an empath and was feeling overwhelmed by the world and was always stressed, anxious, and often depressed. Things came to a head when I was at my lowest point and I finally went to a doctor. I was given anti-depressant medicine that did not make me feel any happier and instead turned me into a numbed up zombie. I quit taking it after a week. At that point, my doctor didn't know what to do to help me. I started doing some reading online trying to see where I matched up with possible mental illnesses and found an empath website. And I recognized who I was, and the rest is history. Understanding that I was an empath helped me understand that I was not ill and helped better identify why I was having waves of emotions (from other people). And now I'm better able to manage the negative symptoms through grounding (no medicine needed).

The tricky thing is that I don't want people who have legitimate mental illness to think they are an empath and go off their meds. Not being a doctor I would guess a lot of people with an anxiety and/or depression disorder could be empaths. But I would think anything more serious like bi-polar, mania, or schizophrenia etc... should carefully adhere to their doctor's advice on how to manage the illness.

Rene''
@rene
last year
1,194 posts

Hop Daddy:

This is a great post as I believe a lot of people who are empathic can be wrongly diagnosed with a mental illness. In fact, I had that happen to me. I did not know I was an empath and was feeling overwhelmed by the world and was always stressed, anxious, and often depressed. Things came to a head when I was at my lowest point and I finally went to a doctor. I was given anti-depressant medicine that did not make me feel any happier and instead turned me into a numbed up zombie. I quit taking it after a week. At that point, my doctor didn't know what to do to help me. I started doing some reading online trying to see where I matched up with possible mental illnesses and found an empath website. And I recognized who I was, and the rest is history. Understanding that I was an empath helped me understand that I was not ill and helped better identify why I was having waves of emotions (from other people). And now I'm better able to manage the negative symptoms through grounding (no medicine needed).

The tricky thing is that I don't want people who have legitimate mental illness to think they are an empath and go off their meds. Not being a doctor I would guess a lot of people with an anxiety and/or depression disorder could be empaths. But I would think anything more serious like bi-polar, mania, or schizophrenia etc... should carefully adhere to their doctor's advice on how to manage the illness.

thats why I am reluctant on posting on mental health issues    I do believe some have medical issues   They see things and hear things they may need treatment for and I don't won't my words to stand in their way of getting medical advice ...

im spiritual and the things I hear see and feel is not the same as Schizophrenia or other mental health issues but I do think some are missed diagnosed.   

Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
last year
507 posts

Rene, I totally agree. One the one hand you hate to see newbie empaths who are experiencing anxiety be given anti-depressants (muting their gift). But on the other hand, we don't want to see someone with a mental illness avoid medical help. It is very tricky. 

mommy4
@mommy4
last year
28 posts

Here is a better question... I made a horrible mistake not long ago that altered my life and hurt people I care about and now I'm trying to me it back together.  The thing is when it was unfolding I look back and I didn't recognize myself at all.  People said I was becoming distant and I didn't feel like I was.  I never in my life hurt people on an emotional level like I did when I did.  And when I did it I felt a pain that only happened to me once before and it channeled from me to the other person almost like my heart ripping out of my chest and sending the pain to him hoping for him to come rescue me.  Before this when people said I was being distant I felt like something bad was going to happen.  But,  like my one dream as a preteen I didn't know who it was that was going to go through this or what exactly happened.  My dream was someone was in a car accident.  The next day my mom and I were in a car accident luckily nobody was hurt. Then, fast forward to recently I had a bad feeling something was about to happen then I made my big mistake which in the end hurt me and my loved one and it was a matter of fixing what I did to try to save what I can or losing what matters the most to me forever.  I chose to try to fixing what I did to save what I can.  I don't know if it was a manic episode or the start of a new beginning (I've read when empaths start coming into their new journey they let their past selves die and a new one is born.  I'm having trouble differentiating the two. I've sat back and noticed if I don't listen to my gut feeling bad things happen and I just sat back and let it and boy did it bring different things into perspective and questions to my mind.  But,  one still lingers from my childhood that nags at me... I don't know who I truely am... I can't until I get a DNA test done from like ancestry.com I have a side of my family that is a mystery since my mom was adopted and so anything is possible from my mom's side.  But, my question remains unanswered there... So,  the foreseeable question I'm trying to answer am I bipolar (which my mother is diagnosed bipolar but like I said we just went by what drs said no actual evidence)  or am I a empath?  How did you know for sure that you were a empath? 

mommy4
@mommy4
last year
28 posts

Hop Daddy:

This is a great post as I believe a lot of people who are empathic can be wrongly diagnosed with a mental illness. In fact, I had that happen to me. I did not know I was an empath and was feeling overwhelmed by the world and was always stressed, anxious, and often depressed. Things came to a head when I was at my lowest point and I finally went to a doctor. I was given anti-depressant medicine that did not make me feel any happier and instead turned me into a numbed up zombie. I quit taking it after a week. At that point, my doctor didn't know what to do to help me. I started doing some reading online trying to see where I matched up with possible mental illnesses and found an empath website. And I recognized who I was, and the rest is history. Understanding that I was an empath helped me understand that I was not ill and helped better identify why I was having waves of emotions (from other people). And now I'm better able to manage the negative symptoms through grounding (no medicine needed).

The tricky thing is that I don't want people who have legitimate mental illness to think they are an empath and go off their meds. Not being a doctor I would guess a lot of people with an anxiety and/or depression disorder could be empaths. But I would think anything more serious like bi-polar, mania, or schizophrenia etc... should carefully adhere to their doctor's advice on how to manage the illness.

Hop Daddy this is pretty close to how I feel on a daily basis unless I do yoga or meditate or ground myself its a terrible feeling always tense,  anxious,  sometimes depressed but I try to shove depression away,  overwhelmed, stressed, and lately I've been doing a lot of crying.  Crying is a little relieving since I feel nobody around me knows what's going on inside me and sometimes I don't even know what's going on inside myself

Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
last year
507 posts

@mommy4:

I'm curious, what is your personal definition of what makes a person bipolar? And how does that fit in with how you are feeling and acting?

I think bi-polar disorder is so serious that if you are bipolar I would hate to see you avoid getting diagnosed and treated while thinking it is just empathy. I think doctors these days give out anti-depressants like candy when a patient says they are feeling a little down. And in many cases an empath is given anti-depressants to make them feel better. I have issue with that and personally went through that. But being bipolar is more serious than being a little anxious or depressed.

I know a few people who are bipolar and do really well on their meds. So the good news is there is help for you with traditional medicine if you are bipolar. If you don't mind my two cents, I would suggest that you go to a doctor to run tests to see if you are clinically bipolar. And while you are in the process of doing that I would see how well you cope with continuing your yoga and grounding exercises. Maybe try to get some protection crystals to carry with you day and night to see if those also help calm you down (most empaths respond well to black tourmaline or black obsidian). 

Best of luck to you. I hope you are able to stabilize your life and be happy.

Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
last year
507 posts

I just realized that I left out a transition sentence. in the above comment. I would suggest that you get tested by a doctor for mental illness while also trying some of the standard empath grounding techniques and yoga/exercise or whatever else makes you feel better and relieve stress. That way you are taking two approaches to trying to get yourself back in balance.

mommy4
@mommy4
last year
28 posts

I'm sorry I didn't fully explain... I was as a preteen diagnosed bipolar by a doctor my guardians (my grandparents)  put me through therapy and they put me on Lithium.  I was on lithium and went to a psychologist for a Bipolar Study from 13 until I turned 18. When I got pregnant with my eldest child when I just turned 18 I got off my meds. My Bipolar Study was from age 13-16 I believe I can't remember my ages exactly but I went through a study for a while when I was first diagnosed but the study ended before I turned 18. I haven't had a problem since being off my meds till about 2 yrs ago now when my grandfather that helps raise me passed.  I tried returning to a therapist but I didn't like the medicines since I read up on what I put into my body and such.  So, at this new therapist I saw 3 different people.  1st person was the doctor who prescribed medicines,  2nd person was someone I would talk to and express myself to,  and 3rd person was a nurse who just took my weight,  up,  normal stuff like that.  I would talk to the therapist about having issues with medicines the Dr would prescribe me and not just his medicines it was medicines in general with side effects and such that kind of terrified me and she said that maybe I didn't need medications maybe I just needed to talk. But the Dr was putting me on Klonopin which just made me feel like a zombie but it was a low dose.  I have always to the home remedy approach guess some of it comes from my grandmother but there's a better understanding.  I was diagnosed as a child but come to think of it with the description of bipolar disorder I feel like some examples of bipolar mania or depression isn't quite neither of what I am. I usually never do it have any thoughts of not having a consequence.  I always think before I do I actually analyze most of it before my conclusion.  I was told my mother is diagnosed bipolar and that I get it from her but she she has almost gone to prison for 4 domestic violences.  I've never done anything extreme nor have I stayed in a depressed episode long.  I lift myself out of depression because I've heard of the extremes.  I'm normally a upbeat person with a positive attitude. So,  I considered myself abnormal to the bipolar tendencies

Hop Daddy
@hop-daddy
last year
507 posts

Hmmm. Very tough call given your bipolar history. 

What happens with me is I get strong emotions that hit me without warning that aren't mine. They come and go but typically leave me feeling anxious and drained by days end. I have a terrible time in crowds like a movie theater or church as I feel absolutely bombarded. But I know how to control it through grounding, carrying crystals, and getting away from a situation that I can't handle (like people arguing etc...). If this sounds like you and you feel safe not being on bipolar meds, then you may be an empath. Aside from Yoga, do you notice a pretty immediate calming effect from grounding & meditation?

mommy4
@mommy4
last year
28 posts

Yes,  which is abnormal.  Because I find it hard for mostly anything to relax me. And it helps immensely.  I get bored easily.  I have to give my old man credit for dealing with me sometimes with how board I get. Every day I feel like I have slept well for days. I have to prepare myself every day to make it a decent day to avoid stress. Even so it physically for past few days I've been working out my neck because I don't know how all of a sudden my neck muscles have been hurting.  I haven't slept no differently but that could be my own pain hard to tell. But even my fiancé can tell u about my attitude change I can go ping pong sometimes maybe having 4 kids ages 6,5,3,2 at 24 yrs old will contribute there.  There are many factors debatable for bipolar or empathy and I am honestly trying to figure out which.  Without meaning to offend anybody.  I mainly post to figure out about myself more before I give advice.  I've given some advice on here but not much.  I don't feel securely sure enough to be able to give out a lot of info. 

mommy4
@mommy4
last year
28 posts

Oh not to mention I don't watch the news no one really does in my household.  I don't get to where I'm crying because of the nothing but bad news and violence.  I don't enjoy watching it nor do I allow my kids to watch it.  I don't think they would find out the real world yet they are still too young to see our world.  I don't ban watching news I just don't like to. 

TigerLily
@tigerlily
last year
309 posts

Chesire Cat put it the best about bipolar.  and I agree with everyone that highs and lows are diagnosed with bi polar, even though not.  ugh, I'm so tired of the bad Dr's out there and others in the workplace getting a free ride, and know nothing.  (sorry)   women with pcos are often diagnosed as bi polar as well due to the hormones causing ups and downs, but no irrational behavior like stealing a baby and taking a road trip.  One of the characters in shameless is bipolar, and no empath acts like that.  The ups and downs is not bi polar if one day your sad and the other happy, stuff happens in life.  But we all absorb it in like sponges and have to work harder to keep sane :)

Visitor
@visitor
11 months ago
303 posts

I've known bipolar people, and it's a genuine disorder, believe me. I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety, labels I accept (for now) because they work for me. I'm also an awakening empath. Bipolar disorder is a very difficult disease to keep under control, and it may be related to empathy, but it's not the same. One person I knew very well could be suicidal for weeks, then manic for days. He was sometimes manic and depressed at the same time. Mania was sometimes expressed as a feeling of great power, and sometimes it was pure rage. He was very empathic, but used it to manipulate people, not help them. I felt very relieved that I didn't have it myself. Bipolar disorder is sometimes tied to childhood sexual abuse (that was true in this person's case). I've heard that only a BP can understand another BP. I don't understand it, but it's definitely real, not just the "disorder of the month."

Share This

From Our Sponsors

  • intuitive reading
  • empath book