Trevor Lewis
Trevor Lewis
@trevor-lewis
2 years ago
274 posts

Hi Bruce,

You and I have around the block on this one before. I believe people at certain levels can benefit from your perspective but that there are many others, at other levels of consciousness, who absolutely benefit from "coping mechanisms" and that it does not serve them to tell them they are wrong.

I also wish to point out the quote "our deepest fear" does not come from Mandela (a false internet legend) but from Marianne Williamson. Have a look at various sources on this at https://www.google.com/search?q=Our+deepest+fear+is+not+that+we+are+inadequate.Our+deepest+fear+is+that+we+are+powerful+beyond+measure.+mandela+williamson&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Blessings ... and love,

Trevor

Lavender&rose
Lavender&rose
@lavenderrose
2 years ago
82 posts

Okay. Spend a bit of time in a supermax prison, a drug detox, or working on a mental health team and get back to me about the amazing powers of 'love' as a block to negative and disturbing energy! And isn't that 'love' your form of a shield, in any case?

Why you have bought into the false dichotomy of 'love' v 'fear' - which was 'channeled' by a woman who later disavowed the work and rued the publication of it, and died depressed and some say insane - beats me. But that's another question; it has infiltrated the social psyche pretty thoroughly by now, at any rate.

It also bothers me that you have to put down others' beliefs and practices, and yet remain so steadfastly ignorant of what those practices may be, or why they were instigated in the first place.

Jesus Christ, who was no slouch himself when it came to emanating and understanding the power of love, used the form of protection we call prayer.

If you want to not shield, not pray for protection, not visualise the light of the Holy Spirit surrounding you, etc- that's fine. If that works foryou, that's good.But please afford others the same respect and courtesy of allowing them their beliefs.

I know many people I respect who no longer shield. Good for them. I am ancient, long aware of my empath thing, and reasonably well-versed in various suggested practices, and haveheard both sides of the shield/not shield discussion many a time. And yet I have still not 'moved on from it' - after an experimental yearwhere I was shamed into not using my light protection, and really learnt why it is better for me to protect. And if you went into some of the environments I visit, you (unshielded) would most likely keel over and die on the spot, with stark white hair!

To each their own, Bruce. Perhaps be grateful you are less...er...sensitive, than some.

Goodenergyhealing
Goodenergyhealing
@goodenergyhealing
2 years ago
392 posts

sorry - I am with Trevor and Lavender&Rose here.

LOVE is often sold as these wonderful pink shades, in the spiritual/ esoteric community. Supposedly if you wear those shades, not only does everything look pink and wonderful, but supposedly everything turns into the wonderful too! You put those shades on and 'phoof' -> Paradise! Don't get me wrong, I do believe that LOVE and ULTIMATE GOOD are the actual and only real realities in eternity, BUT we live on a SUFFERING planet. We are allowed to experience the opposite of LOVE here - in MANY shapes and forms. These suffering energies are often built quite sturdy! Shining a bit of LIGHT on them does not always just make them evaporate. Even drafting in armies of angels (I do ask for those (and higher up the Angel Hierarchy!)) some suffering constructs take a long time to dismantle!

Sure my life has gotten easier in some respects, since becoming spiritual (some of that is due to asking for protections!), but some healing processes took years. You could say that my LOVE just was not great enough to dissolve my obstacles (but you'd also be saying that the LOVE of armies of angels does not suffice....).

And as for avoiding all suffering. It cannot always be done! Plus I see myself as a healer, and just like a doctor cannot avoid seeing sick people, as a healer, I cannot avoid encountering sick energies. I give them all the LOVE, WISDOM etc I have (plus ALOT of divine HELP), but it is still a tough job many days!

Perhaps you don't intend to - but your comment sounds like reprimand. I do not feel encouragement and support, but more telling people off for (rightfully) shielding, and supposedly not loving enough!

Love and Light!

Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts
Hmmm...yeah....as much Love that I have in me...why am I tiptoeing backwards from this? I'm glad your happy to be on your level of vibration but...for some of us..shielding and protections is a must because the shielding and protection that I do isn't just for myself , it for loving brings like youself and many many others so you can feel this comfortable in your vibration. It's called unconditional Love. When someone lays down in there bed tonight and nothing "naughty" happens...you may have a light worker to thank for peaceful dreams, not that any of us need recognition, but I'm here to serve and to protect others. I don't always name a person to protect, sometimes I send it out to whoever needs it.I'm happy your Love is plentiful and strong enough to vibrate at a higher vibration then most, but, toss some out there into the unverse , someone would love to feel love tonight.I hate to assume when you say "people need coping mechanisms" your not talking about awakening Empaths or any one else on this forum for that matter. That's not fair. And this is why I protect others. Even though you are of the light, please don't make people feel less important than you because they are having problem. This is one reason why I here, at this moment on my journey, is to say, I'm here to help, love and to heal. Just because your journey so far has not been a rocky path, let me assure you, there are rocks ahead. If I have taken your post wrongly, then I apologize whole heartedly , Love and Light Brother
Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
2 years ago
977 posts

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'the delusions of being an empath'....are you saying that empaths are making stuff up and are...well...delusional? Love has nothing to do with Empathic abilities....if Love could cure everything we'd have no need for healers...no one would have traumas....sickness....injury....and I wouldn't be sensing...absorbing...everyone else's crappy energy on a daily basis....I wouldn't be so drained every single day...I'd be out laughing and skipping...rolling around in fields of grass...getting sun tanned...not working...just being...if only I could love more....lol...well I can love all I want and I do...but that doesn't change the tiredness...absorbing other peoples energy and not being able to be with people for long periods of time without feeling drained....so what kind of love do I need to get what you got?.... I already love The Great Spirit and entire universe that we live in...I try and respect others as I would like to be respected...The Great Spirit guides and protects me always...yet sometimes stuff sneaks through the protections and I need extra help....which I had to learn for myself just in case....so what kind of love will help me with all that? What kind of love will help me deal with the energy of any narcessists I encounter....my mission is ALWAYS about helping others and that comes from my ability to love....but not everyone else comes from that place or knows what it means...I don't think you really know what your talking about...nor do you know anything about what any of us have gone through....obviously...or you wouldn't have said this...an empath would never have said what you said...cause we know it's beCAUSE we love too much that sometimes we get into trouble....not too little...

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
2 years ago
977 posts

Well then...I'm

certainly glad you aren't one of those people attatching this tag to yourself....after all...I don't think the 'tag' of empath would suit you....and i would only be feeding your own delusions of thinking you are one if I did that....lol

Karen2
Karen2
@womanwhowalks
2 years ago
977 posts
Wow...
Lavender&rose
Lavender&rose
@lavenderrose
2 years ago
82 posts

You may be qualified to say that - but that is not what you said.

Thank you for the further put-down.

Lavender&rose
Lavender&rose
@lavenderrose
2 years ago
82 posts

nvm

Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts
Totally agree
Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts
I think we are based on personal situation , opinions and experiences. A lot of post, such as this one , makes me look at myself and what I need to work on within me. Even though we are individuals , we are all connected , the best and worst of each other. I have learn so much from everyone on this forum and it's all been good and has help me grow. We all have different journeys but will all meet at the same destination (I hope). The unconditional love we have for one others is the reason we can pour our hearts to strangers. There is much love here.Love , light, and blessings

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