Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts
I do have a question and do not want to offend anyone by asking questions . I , too, am a child of God, but I do not claim a religion. I have always been strong in my beliefs and still am. With that being said, when I started out on my journey , I included Jesus as my light source, and said a pray for him to guide me. But when I did, I seen nothing and felt nothing and it scared me that I was going against his wishes so I started not including my faith in God in my meditations and it was smooth sailing. I was wondering, was my beliefs and asking him to attend , did this stop my visions because he didn't want me to see and feel the things that are so vivid to me or was he watching over me silently? I know that's a question that has no answer except by me but I don't know the answer yet. I do not let my spiritual work interfere with my love for him but I was wondering if anyone else struggles with this. And if so, what are your feelings on this.
Goodenergyhealing
Goodenergyhealing
@goodenergyhealing
2 years ago
392 posts

used to have problems with the Cristian Heavens too. Exacerbated by the fact that I was member of a cult, led by a guru, who had, in regression therapy, been identified as Jesus (but turned out to b a psychopath in the end).

To me the image of one God is too limiting. I believe/ feel Creation is down to the creative effort of loads of divine beings. Obviously one can see GOD, as All-That-Is, but I prefer to just say the Divine, or Ultimate Good....

When trying to work with more christian forces in the past, I had a higher chance of being hit with guilt energies, or the like. Looking back, and adding all the other spiritual experiences I have had in my life, I interpret all this as this though: The Divine as such is ultimate good, perfect unconditional Love etc., regardless of what label we stick on it! But our thoughts have some creative power, and or can feed confused energies. As such I think that over the last 2 millennia confused beings/ energies have been created/ fed, which sit between us and the true Divine. Such beings can taint ones connection, and make it appear, as if there is conditions attached to connecting, e.g. having had to be baptized, or feeling guilty about non-heterosexual sexual preferences, etc. These feelings can feel very real, but have nothing to do with the true Divine! So there is nothing wrong with someone using christian doors to the Divine, but if one get's 'tainting' (which after consideration of unconditional Love, eternity etc., do not make any sense), one can pray for their removal, and to be protected against them in the mean time....

LaoG
LaoG
@laog
2 years ago
137 posts

To the OP or anyone willing to answer,

I used to trust in God but now i dont. before i used to think god is good and all but when i look at nature survival is just based on killing some other life to live on another day. so of course the most brutal are usually at the top because they are the best at surviving (killing other life to continue on) and i wondered why would God allow such a horrific thing to occur? this may offend some people but i would like to know their views on this and perhaps a meaning because i am open to the idea that i am missing some sort of detail that makes life beneficial for everyone. a lot of life forms get bullied and killed horribly without even feeling legitimate joy in their life for more than minor and brief moments. children raped and killed and abused and things like that. people born into violent conditions and of course the millions of animals born into violent conditions.

i have had a prayer answered before that was very specific but still i wonder now if this God is good after all or just doesn't care. how would i know if this divine is even protecting me when i pray to them when a lot of people who do and do not pray still suffer an intense amount?

Rene''
Rene''
@rene
2 years ago
1,195 posts
Hello, when I went to church, I wanted to know more than what they were teaching me. That was the moment I knew I did not fit in a "religion" because I knew there were more to learn because I could see with my eyes closed and felt when I was asleep but no one wanted to address my "issues" because it wasn't on their Christian characteristic list so I journeyed alone. I do not believe God is "religion" God is that powerful loving force ruling the universe. Yes I do believe "He" is not just one but "all". The trinity is only a small part not taking away anything from Christ but some religions stops there , but we know there is so much more and that makes me wonder if the Bible was put in place for the simple obeyers, as a handbook to go by. Like the education system for children. They have the basic educational classes and that's enough for them to get by with in the world but then you have this other group of kids that is bored with "basic" because their minds are more advance then just "basic". So they label them "Gifted" and they challenge their mind. By the way, I was one on the basic kids in the educational system.I do not know of a Religion that challenges my mind. Meditation does , in my case. I guess my mind is too open for their taste.
Goodenergyhealing
Goodenergyhealing
@goodenergyhealing
2 years ago
392 posts

thanks Jolie, all good now - did not manage to put me off believing in Higher Powers :)

Goodenergyhealing
Goodenergyhealing
@goodenergyhealing
2 years ago
392 posts

yes, I feel you. There is A LOT of suffering on this planet. It took me a long time to find a solution to that problem, that would allow me to accept that the basis of Life is and can still be Love (regardless is we call that God, Creation, The Universe, Ultimate Good, or else). The only answer I could come up with, and that works for me is - self-choice. I.e. if our soul is eternal, at some point we might want to experience suffering, after all - after one has suffered, one potentially appreciates Love, Happiness etc the more.... As such, I believe, we pre-choose our lives (or a set of lives), suffering and all, before we incarnate. Life is a bit like an S&M relationship, just that most have forgotten that they have chosen it, and that they can use their safe words (i.e. prayer). And that one has to ask for ones suffering to be dissolved (not just 'They Will be done' - because being part of the Divine divine will/ our will is happening all long...)

Now I know some of the things that some of us choose to experience is quite horrendous. But the alternative is to believe that (at least some) eternal divine souls go astray at some point - which makes them less than perfect - and are apparently really slow in learning how to be 'good' again. And do not even get me started on how a system, where one would carry negative karma across lives, remember between lives, apparently not be allowed to forgive and absolve then, and then be born again, forgetting all the previous lives, but still be served 'the bill' - could be loving and divine, if there is no own conscious choice involved....

I did not come to my conclusions lightly, and not simply to stop feeling guilty about all the suffering I could not help! I do know that not all will follow my logic, some will be upset by it, and ultimately we won;t 'know' 100% sure, till after we have left our bodies....

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